Looking at the draft.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

There is definitely an argument to going all in on D line investment.

Philly from this year is the case in point.

Their secondary was mediocre at best and Cooley and other analysts named them as a weakness. Their LB corps was injured early on and continued to be banged up throughout their Super Bowl run. These "weaknesses" were covered by the play and depth of their Dline.

Philly strategically invests in the Dline and rotates them throughout the game.

Their strategy is pressure from a fresh talented Dline can and does cover deficiencies in other defensive units. It worked against one of the best QBs and game planning coaches in the league to win a world championship.

I think there is a strong argument that Dline, like a good running game, is greater than the sum of their parts and positively affects other units and game aspects.

It reduces the coverage time, and thus the time for the secondary to F up. It keeps LBs clean and unblocked to tackle a runner. It messes with a QBs timing and can get in his head.

I don't think a team can ever go wrong by drafting or signing a game changing defensive lineman.

Dudes on the locked on draft podcast said this. They also said that with the DL depth and diversity of play style in this draft class, it would make a lot of sense for a team to double dip


They were hyping Nathan Shepherd

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[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

There is definitely an argument to going all in on D line investment.

Philly from this year is the case in point.

Their secondary was mediocre at best and Cooley and other analysts named them as a weakness. Their LB corps was injured early on and continued to be banged up throughout their Super Bowl run. These "weaknesses" were covered by the play and depth of their Dline.

Philly strategically invests in the Dline and rotates them throughout the game.

Their strategy is pressure from a fresh talented Dline can and does cover deficiencies in other defensive units. It worked against one of the best QBs and game planning coaches in the league to win a world championship.

I think there is a strong argument that Dline, like a good running game, is greater than the sum of their parts and positively affects other units and game aspects.

It reduces the coverage time, and thus the time for the secondary to F up. It keeps LBs clean and unblocked to tackle a runner. It messes with a QBs timing and can get in his head.

I don't think a team can ever go wrong by drafting or signing a game changing defensive lineman.

Good points.

If we can resign Zach Brown and Breeland, sign Paul Richardson and still have the room to sign Poe. I'm ok with it.
Then you can trade down and go DT, RB, G in the first 3.

But I'm not sure the first part of this statement is realistic from a cap standpoint.

[Defensewins]

Great story: LB Shaquem Griffin has proven can play on the field at a high level. He ran 4.3 forty at combine this weekend, fastest time ever for a LB.
Twenty reps on the bench press with a left hand prosthetic as he does not have a left hand. This guy can play.

Mike Mayock: Shaquem Griffin 'plays harder on every snap than everybody in the country' - NFL Videos

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Great story: LB Shaquem Griffin has proven can play on the field at a high level. He ran 4.3 forty at combine this weekend, fastest time ever for a LB.
Twenty reps on the bench press with a left hand prosthetic as he does not have a left hand. This guy can play.

Mike Mayock: Shaquem Griffin 'plays harder on every snap than everybody in the country' - NFL Videos

He might be missing a hand but he makes up for it with his mentality and the work he puts in. I'd be surprised if he makes it past day two. The film is there, the work ethic is there, the stats are there. There is only one thing that isn't there, and tbh I don't see it mattering. Linebackers need a good d-line in front of them to make plays anyways. Not many are good at shedding blockers and making plays if the d-line sucks.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by mooby

He might be missing a hand but he makes up for it with his mentality and the work he puts in. I'd be surprised if he makes it past day two. The film is there, the work ethic is there, the stats are there. There is only one thing that isn't there, and tbh I don't see it mattering. Linebackers need a good d-line in front of them to make plays anyways. Not many are good at shedding blockers and making plays if the d-line sucks.

I agree. It is rare to see a great player on the field, combined with hard worker and then a work out warrior at the NFL combine. A LB running a 4.3....crazy!
It will be interesting to see when and where he goes.

[skinsfaninok]

GUICE , PERINE AND CT would be nasty

[simbosargos75]

No chance I'm going RB at 13 unless Barkley is there, which he obviously won't be.

Gimme Nelson or a front 7 guy.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by simbosargos75

No chance I'm going RB at 13 unless Barkley is there, which he obviously won't be.

Gimme Nelson or a front 7 guy.

thats y we trade down to 20

[simbosargos75]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

thats y we trade down to 20

Yep. 13 for 21/55 was discussed in another thread. That would be great for us and vault Buffalo ahead of Arizona at 15 for a QB. They would still have 22 & 58 in addition to 13.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by simbosargos75

Yep. 13 for 21/55 was discussed in another thread. That would be great for us and vault Buffalo ahead of Arizona at 15 for a QB. They would still have 22 & 58 in addition to 13.

What about our 1st and 2nd for both their 1sts and a 5th?

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by simbosargos75

No chance I'm going RB at 13 unless Barkley is there, which he obviously won't be.

Gimme Nelson or a front 7 guy.

He will be gone way before that.

[skinsfaninok]

If we don't keep ZB, May have to look at R Smith at 13, guy is all over the field

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If we don't keep ZB, May have to look at R Smith at 13, guy is all over the field

LB would definitely be in play at #13 if we can’t keep Brown. Smith is a stud.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by MTK

LB would definitely be in play at #13 if we can’t keep Brown. Smith is a stud.

If he's BPA then I don't think it matters if Brown is resigned or not. Smith is worthy of being taken in the top 10.That would be a great pick for us. He and Brown would give us two serious athletes at ILB.

[skinsfaninok]

DeMaurice Smith: Ban the team that asked the Derrius Guice question from the Combine – ProFootballTalk

Dear god please don't let this be the skins