Classless Coach Belichick

[firstdown]

Kind of funny how everyone last week was ticked that Gibbs would sit on the lead and now people are mad because the Pats keep going. When they did but in their 2nd QB they still scored again. I just wish for the days when we can run the score up against anyone.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Kind of funny how everyone last week was ticked that Gibbs would sit on the lead and now people are mad because the Pats keep going. When they did but in their 2nd QB they still scored again. I just wish for the days when we can run the score up against anyone.

I don't think most people care that their backup QB came in and scored. Of course he's going to try to get in the endzone because it's not like he gets that many chances. Hell, if Cassel had been in for the entire 4th and scored 5 TDs I wouldn't care. We should just be embarrassed that our starting defense couldn't stop him.
BUT what is shitty is when Tom Brady is still in the game with 10 minutes to go in the 4th in a shotgun formation with 4 WRs or going for it on 4th down. Like someone mentioned before, that's pretty similar to the ol' ball coach keeping the starters in a preseason game just to score extra TDs. Like I've been saying all along, I just hope someone decides they've had enough of this shit and knocks brady into next week, and I'm just pissed that we weren't the ones to do it.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I don't think most people care that their backup QB came in and scored. Of course he's going to try to get in the endzone because it's not like he gets that many chances. Hell, if Cassel had been in for the entire 4th and scored 5 TDs I wouldn't care. We should just be embarrassed that our starting defense couldn't stop him.
BUT what is shitty is when Tom Brady is still in the game with 10 minutes to go in the 4th in a shotgun formation with 4 WRs or going for it on 4th down. Like someone mentioned before, that's pretty similar to the ol' ball coach keeping the starters in a preseason game just to score extra TDs. Like I've been saying all along, I just hope someone decides they've had enough of this shit and knocks brady into next week, and I'm just pissed that we weren't the ones to do it.

Last time I checked it was Brady's job to go into the game and score points and its the D's job to stop them. Not his fault but D's and to get mad at them for doing so is funny to me. Thats the difference between the Pats coaches, Brady, and the rest of their team is that they want to be perfect all of the time even if the game is pretty much over. Did you see how brady got ticked at the false start when leading by 30 some points or how the coaches got ticked when their kicker muffed a ball out of bounds when leading by 30 some points. If those things would have happened with the Skins and that big of a lead the coaches and players would have laughed it off. THEY DON"T and thats whay they are kicking everyone to the curb and are going to wip the Colts. I just hope some of that attitude rubed off on some of our players or our players watched how they play to be perfect.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

It's simple people: begging for mercy and not wanting to be humiliated are NOT the same.

Belichick humiliated us, and people are upset. What's so hard to understand?

Most of the people arguing for Belichick can only say, "what do you want them to do? Win the game for you? They don't need to show you mercy." Obviously, that's the only argument you can come up with, because there is no justification for humiliation. Why don't you address the real issue (humiliation), instead of making up a new one that you can argue for?

Just quit talking if all you can say is that they don't have to show you mercy. No shit Sherlock. They don't HAVE to show humility either -- but they should. Why don't you tell us why humility isn't important?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

It's simple people: begging for mercy and not wanting to be humiliated are NOT the same.

Belichick humiliated us, and people are upset. What's so hard to understand?

Most of the people arguing for Belichick can only say, "what do you want them to do? Win the game for you? They don't need to show you mercy." Obviously, that's the only argument you can come up with, because there is no justification for humiliation. Why don't you address the real issue (humiliation), instead of making up a new one that you can argue for?

Just quit talking if all you can say is that they don't have to show you mercy. No shit Sherlock. They don't HAVE to show humility either -- but they should. Why don't you tell us why humility isn't important?

Isn't every team "humiliated" by every loss? No matter how large or small the point margin?

Call it what you want, humiliated, humbled, embarassed, -- just don't complain about the opposing team trying to score points. No NFL offense has an obligation to avoid scoring just because the other teams' players might get their feelings hurt.

These are grown men we're talking about here. The people who think it's wrong to "run up the score" are sounding like 8-year olds.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Isn't every team "humiliated" by every loss? No matter how large or small the point margin?

Call it what you want, humiliated, humbled, embarassed, -- just don't complain about the opposing team trying to score points. No NFL offense has an obligation to avoid scoring just because the other teams' players might get their feelings hurt.

These are grown men we're talking about here. The people who think it's wrong to "run up the score" are sounding like 8-year olds.

So, just because you think teams (and people) are humiliated every day that makes it right? Please. Just because things happen doesn't mean they should. It's called is/ought confusion, and you are definitely confused.

I'm not complaining about the opposing team scoring points. I'm complaining about BB not showing humility. It's a thing that humans (should) do -- regardless of your job, or how much you get paid. Don't twist words to suit your argument. Scoring points isn't the problem.

Yes, they are grown men. That is why they should behave in a more considerate and respectable manner. They could have stopped with 38 points, but they decided to add another 14. And, that's not a problem. It's just that they kept their starters in. That shows they were INTENTIONALLY trying to run up the score. Eight year olds are still learning how to behave in a considerate and respectable manner. Grown men should already know how to do that.

It is baffling that you think people asking for others to be considerate are acting like eight year olds, but people who couldn't care less about their fellow man are being "grown men". I am so disappointed in you.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

So, just because you think teams (and people) are humiliated every day that makes it right? Please. Just because things happen doesn't mean they should. It's called is/ought confusion, and you are definitely confused.

I'm not complaining about the opposing team scoring points. I'm complaining about BB not showing humility. It's a thing that humans (should) do -- regardless of your job, or how much you get paid. Don't twist words to suit your argument. Scoring points isn't the problem.

Yes, they are grown men. That is why they should behave in a more considerate and respectable manner. They could have stopped with 38 points, but they decided to add another 14. And, that's not a problem. It's just that they kept their starters in. That shows they were INTENTIONALLY trying to run up the score. Eight year olds are still learning how to behave in a considerate and respectable manner. Grown men should already know how to do that.

It is baffling that you think people asking for others to be considerate are acting like eight year olds, but people who couldn't care less about their fellow man are being "grown men". I am so disappointed in you.

It's not Belichick's job to show humility. Suppose he does nothing but call running plays and puts the scrubs in? If the third-string halfback breaks a run, should carry the torch of humility and kneel down before crossing into the endzone?

Don't forget, Belichick did exactly what you asked by pulling Brady and putting in Cassel. Admittedly, it apparently didn't happen at the point in the game which would have met your approval -- what's that point by the way? Is it 5 minutes to go? 10 minutes? And by what margin of score? What's that magical point when one passes from the "humility zone" and into mean-spiritedness? On that touchdown run, should Cassel have carried out Belichick's "humility" and run out of bounds?

Being humiliated is nobody's fault but the person who feels that way. No professional football player has a responsibility to refrain from doing his job to ensure his opponent isn't humiliated.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Being humiliated is nobody's fault but the person who feels that way. No professional football player has a responsibility to refrain from doing his job to ensure his opponent isn't humiliated.

I don't think anyone has said they have such a responsibility. I have a responsibility to not kill, maim, kidnap, rape, or assault anybody. I do NOT have a responsibility to act like an a**hole. Although I do not not have a responsibility to refrain from acting like an a**hole, I still don't. Some people just don't have that filter (i.e., class).

Tell me what purpose Bill Belichick served by needlessly running up the score? By the middle of the 3rd quarter it was clear that he was going to win the game. Stats don't mean s--t to guys like Brady and Belichick, right? So, basically they risked injury to their players for no other purpose than to run up the score and embarass the Redskins. To me, that SHOUTS stupidity and a lack of class.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

It's not Belichick's job to show humility. Suppose he does nothing but call running plays and puts the scrubs in? If the third-string halfback breaks a run, should carry the torch of humility and kneel down before crossing into the endzone?

Sure, it's nobody's JOB to show humility. Nobody get's paid to do that, and it's not a law. So, nobody has to show humility ever. I get that. I just think humans SHOULD be more considerate. You obviously don't. Do you ever hold the door open for somebody? Do you ever let another car into your lane? Probably not, since you obviously don't value human compassion.

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Don't forget, Belichick did exactly what you asked by pulling Brady and putting in Cassel. Admittedly, it apparently didn't happen at the point in the game which would have met your approval -- what's that point by the way? Is it 5 minutes to go? 10 minutes? And by what margin of score? What's that magical point when one passes from the "humility zone" and into mean-spiritedness? On that touchdown run, should Cassel have carried out Belichick's "humility" and run out of bounds?

Oh, I see. Since you can't argue why it is okay to humiliate people, you will just come at me with a bunch of crap. Obviously there is no way to quantify embarrassment, so you just ask a question that can't be answered. Good argument. It's one of those gray areas. It's subjective. Don't ask me to objectify it, because it can't be done. It's just one of those things you have to use your judgment on. I can't say where the line is, but that doesn't mean that I don't know when it's been crossed.

So he put in Cassell with 5 minutes left. Do you think that is evidence of BB's humility?

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Being humiliated is nobody's fault but the person who feels that way. No professional football player has a responsibility to refrain from doing his job to ensure his opponent isn't humiliated.

So, if you say something that offends another person it's their fault for getting offended? You played no role in hurting their feelings? I would guess that you don't care about anyone.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The people who think it's wrong to "run up the score" are sounding like 8-year olds.

Solely because I am a mod, I am going to resist speaking my true feelings about people who say things like this. But I will say that you can act with class and you can act without class and some people can't see the difference between the two.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Solely because I am a mod, I am going to resist speaking my true feelings about people who say things like this. But I will say that you can act with class and you can act without class and some people can't see the difference between the two.

The funny thing is I'm sure there are plenty of 8-year olds out there that understand what sportsmanship is all better than some of the folks around here.

[dall-assblows]

if we were the pats you would want as many points as possible.

im not mad at them.

a loss is a loss, we got bent over and raped.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by dall-assblows

if we were the pats you would want as many points as possible.

im not mad at them.

a loss is a loss, we got bent over and raped.

If we were up 38-0 going into the 4th quarter and Gibbs still had Campbell in I'd be more than a little pissed because there is no need to leave him in and exposed to major injury in that situation. Like I keep saying, there is no reasonable justification for having brady in at that stage of the game.
At this point I'm not really mad at them either, I'm just really mad that our guys didn't punish belichick for leaving his boy in there.

[firstdown]

Maybe they should have made Brady throw with his left arm, tie weights to the feet of lineman, make their running back craw. We had been humiliated way before the forth quarter.

[dall-assblows]

you remember when we put up 52 on the niners? did we back down at all? i cant remember. to long ago