Mark Sanchez at 13th?

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

My Prediction:

-The Browns trade Edwards to the Giants for a 1st and 3rd round pick.
-The Redskins trade Santana Moss, our 1st round pick, and our third round pick to the Browns for the #5 overall selection.
-The Redskins trade our 2010 first round pick for a 2009 2nd round pick.
-The Redskins trade Jason Campbell to the Jets for their 3rd and 4th Round picks (they don't have a natural 4th rounder - its ours for Kendall, so we're really taking this one back).

The Redskins Select:

1. QB Mark Sanchez, USC
2. OT/OG Duke Robinson, Oklahoma OR G/C Max Unger, Oregon
3. DE Paul Krueger, Oregon
4. CB Greg Toler, St Pauls
5. RB Antoine Smith, Florida State (serious home run threat)
6. LB/WR
7. LB/WR

Ok, i think i had way too much coffee this morning, lol. Seriously, that was all wild speculation and I don't see any of it really happening - except trading with the Browns for Sanchez. I wholeheartedly believe the Skins are zeroing in on Sanchez and will do whatever they can to acquire him - whether they succeed or not remains to be seen.

Wow, lot's of coffee, wheeling and dealing. I would not be shocked to see a draft day trade for JC or others. I would be shocked to trade SM, our only proven legit WR. We'd be horrible.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

My Prediction:

-The Browns trade Edwards to the Giants for a 1st and 3rd round pick.
-The Redskins trade Santana Moss, our 1st round pick, and our third round pick to the Browns for the #5 overall selection.
-The Redskins trade our 2010 first round pick for a 2009 2nd round pick.
-The Redskins trade Jason Campbell to the Jets for their 3rd and 4th Round picks (they don't have a natural 4th rounder - its ours for Kendall, so we're really taking this one back).

The Redskins Select:

1. QB Mark Sanchez, USC
2. OT/OG Duke Robinson, Oklahoma OR G/C Max Unger, Oregon
3. DE Paul Krueger, Oregon
4. CB Greg Toler, St Pauls
5. RB Antoine Smith, Florida State (serious home run threat)
6. LB/WR
7. LB/WR

Ok, i think i had way too much coffee this morning, lol. Seriously, that was all wild speculation and I don't see any of it really happening - except trading with the Browns for Sanchez. I wholeheartedly believe the Skins are zeroing in on Sanchez and will do whatever they can to acquire him - whether they succeed or not remains to be seen.

Thank God you're not the GM. I think you must have put crack instead of sugar in the coffe.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Thank God you're not the GM. I think you must have put crack instead of sugar in the coffe.

Seriously. That's lunacy.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

My Prediction:

-The Browns trade Edwards to the Giants for a 1st and 3rd round pick.
-The Redskins trade Santana Moss, our 1st round pick, and our third round pick to the Browns for the #5 overall selection.
-The Redskins trade our 2010 first round pick for a 2009 2nd round pick.
-The Redskins trade Jason Campbell to the Jets for their 3rd and 4th Round picks (they don't have a natural 4th rounder - its ours for Kendall, so we're really taking this one back).

The Redskins Select:

1. QB Mark Sanchez, USC
2. OT/OG Duke Robinson, Oklahoma OR G/C Max Unger, Oregon
3. DE Paul Krueger, Oregon
4. CB Greg Toler, St Pauls
5. RB Antoine Smith, Florida State (serious home run threat)
6. LB/WR
7. LB/WR

Ok, i think i had way too much coffee this morning, lol. Seriously, that was all wild speculation and I don't see any of it really happening - except trading with the Browns for Sanchez. I wholeheartedly believe the Skins are zeroing in on Sanchez and will do whatever they can to acquire him - whether they succeed or not remains to be seen.

That would be an unmitigated disaster for us. So we're trading our starting QB and top WR, trading our 1st round and 3rd round pick this year, our first round pick next year to essentially get Mark Sanchez, Duke Robinson and Greg Toler? Wow, the league should step in because we'd clearly be self destructing.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

My Prediction:

-The Browns trade Edwards to the Giants for a 1st and 3rd round pick.
-The Redskins trade Santana Moss, our 1st round pick, and our third round pick to the Browns for the #5 overall selection.
-The Redskins trade our 2010 first round pick for a 2009 2nd round pick.
-The Redskins trade Jason Campbell to the Jets for their 3rd and 4th Round picks (they don't have a natural 4th rounder - its ours for Kendall, so we're really taking this one back).

The Redskins Select:

1. QB Mark Sanchez, USC
2. OT/OG Duke Robinson, Oklahoma OR G/C Max Unger, Oregon
3. DE Paul Krueger, Oregon
4. CB Greg Toler, St Pauls
5. RB Antoine Smith, Florida State (serious home run threat)
6. LB/WR
7. LB/WR

Ok, i think i had way too much coffee this morning, lol. Seriously, that was all wild speculation and I don't see any of it really happening - except trading with the Browns for Sanchez. I wholeheartedly believe the Skins are zeroing in on Sanchez and will do whatever they can to acquire him - whether they succeed or not remains to be seen.

wow someone has been playing way too much Madden

Step away from the controller

[BigHairedAristocrat]

All kidding aside, i am dead serious that I think the Skins are going to make a big move to get Sanchez. If we want him, they really have to trade with the Seahawks or Browns to get him. I really think the Seahawks will take Crabtree, so thats why I think the Browns are the team anyone wanting Sanchez will have to trade with to get him.

If, for some reason, no one trades with Cleavland, and they pass on Sanchez, then then Jacksonville becomes the next team (8th pick), where I can see Snyder and other teams trading in to get him.

Anyway, assuming the Skins traded with Cleavland to select Sanchez, then we have to look at what they would want - our first and third our no-brainers. And assuming Cleavland trades Edwards to the Giants as has been rumored, they would have a need at receiver. Santana Moss is one of our only players with trade value, and a couple of months ago, it was reported by a reliable source that the Skins had made quiet inquiries to other teams on their interest in Moss (and Rogers)... so thats why i had us throwing Moss in the package.

Trading Moss aside, anyway you look at it, if we trade up for Sanchez, there are two problems:

1) We are left without another pick until the 5th round
2) We need to get rid of Jason Campbell, who can probably not get us a 2nd round compensation at this point.

To solve problem #1, do you really think Snyder would think twice about trading our 1st round pick next year for a 2nd this year? Given our dire need of o-line help to protect our new franchise QB, this move really becomes a necessity. If Snyder is really trying to replicate Atlantas success last year, he'd do what they did - draft a franchise QB first and then get some oline help.

To solve problem #2, Snyder would try to work a deal with the Jets - they have an obvious need at QB and we just took the guy they were taking - so i'm thinking a 3rd and 4th is what we'd get.

As I said before, its just wild speculation, but those moves are what i think the skins would be forced to do if they traded up for Sanchez - something that is becoming more and more of a possibility every day it seems (whether we like it or not).

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

All kidding aside, i am dead serious that I think the Skins are going to make a big move to get Sanchez. If we want him, they really have to trade with the Seahawks or Browns to get him. I really think the Seahawks will take Crabtree, so thats why I think the Browns are the team anyone wanting Sanchez will have to trade with to get him.

If, for some reason, no one trades with Cleavland, and they pass on Sanchez, then then Jacksonville becomes the next team (8th pick), where I can see Snyder and other teams trading in to get him.

Anyway, assuming the Skins traded with Cleavland to select Sanchez, then we have to look at what they would want - our first and third our no-brainers. And assuming Cleavland trades Edwards to the Giants as has been rumored, they would have a need at receiver. Santana Moss is one of our only players with trade value, and a couple of months ago, it was reported by a reliable source that the Skins had made quiet inquiries to other teams on their interest in Moss (and Rogers)... so thats why i had us throwing Moss in the package.

Trading Moss aside, anyway you look at it, if we trade up for Sanchez, there are two problems:

1) We are left without another pick until the 5th round
2) We need to get rid of Jason Campbell, who can probably not get us a 2nd round compensation at this point.

To solve problem #1, do you really think Snyder would think twice about trading our 1st round pick next year for a 2nd this year? Given our dire need of o-line help to protect our new franchise QB, this move really becomes a necessity. If Snyder is really trying to replicate Atlantas success last year, he'd do what they did - draft a franchise QB first and then get some oline help.

To solve problem #2, Snyder would try to work a deal with the Jets - they have an obvious need at QB and we just took the guy they were taking - so i'm thinking a 3rd and 4th is what we'd get.

As I said before, its just wild speculation, but those moves are what i think the skins would be forced to do if they traded up for Sanchez - something that is becoming more and more of a possibility every day it seems (whether we like it or not).

That's a pretty big assumption that our FO could pull of a trade including Jason Campbell at all, much less for a 2nd round pick. If they take Sanchez, everyone knows Campbell's gone, and if it's not during the draft, he'll be a FA next offseason. There's absolutely no motivation for another team to give up anything for JC if we go get Sanchez.

[SmootSmack]

Last fall, I had a good discussion with a pretty well respected former NFL Executive who said (and I've heard it indirectly elsewhere) that one of the hardest and most under-recognized (I think's that a made up word) responsibilites of the General Manager (or the person in the GM role) is that when you're putting together a team you're not only worried about the talent on the field, but also the marketability off of it.

I countered that if you put together a winning team, wouldn't that ultimately help marketability? He said sure, but you can't depend on that so you need to look at guys who are not only talented but you also need to make sure you have players (and it needs to be starters) or a head coach who have appeal to the wider masses (and sponsors). It's just the way the NFL world works now.

Now, what that has to do with anything here I don't know. I'm just saying it's something to think about.

On a separate note, my USC source who is really well connected to those guys says Rey is the USC guy who the Redskins have shown the most interest in and who most believes he'll probably be a Redskin (this source says we should take Matthews though). Again, this guy has no connection to the Redskins. He's just speaking from the USC players perspective. Didn't really say much about Cushing. Sanchez says he'd be surprised to be a Redskin (which I think means "I'd be stunned if I'm not a top 10 pick")

[MTK]

Listening to NFL radio this morning they were saying at #9 is where things should really heat up for Sanchez, they expect that's when the phones will start ringing for GB if he's still on the board, with someone wanting to jump up and grab him ahead of SF.

[AnimateYYZ]

I don't know how marketable Sanchez would be. I think that we could have a scenario like that of Brady Quinn a couple of years ago- projected top ten pick falls to the bottom of the first. Most of the teams selecting in the top ten this year have gone on record as wanting to trade out. IMO this is a weak draft class with no clear-cut, blue chip prospects. There are too many question marks with guys like Sanchez- and Stafford for that matter. I can't imagine too many teams, even those who need a QB, are thrilled about taking underclassmen with little experience and paying them top ten money.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by AnimateYYZ

I don't know how marketable Sanchez would be. I think that we could have a scenario like that of Brady Quinn a couple of years ago- projected top ten pick falls to the bottom of the first. Most of the teams selecting in the top ten this year have gone on record as wanting to trade out. IMO this is a weak draft class with no clear-cut, blue chip prospects. There are too many question marks with guys like Sanchez- and Stafford for that matter. I can't imagine too many teams, even those who need a QB, are thrilled about taking underclassmen with little experience and paying them top ten money.

He would be hated by all racist (since he's half white half latino) and loved by all normal people.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Zorn pushing hard for Sanchez by the way...again allegedly.

Why? Didn't he give Campbell some big speech about how they're in it together.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

On a separate note, my USC source who is really well connected to those guys says Rey is the USC guy who the Redskins have shown the most interest in and who most believes he'll probably be a Redskin (this source says we should take Matthews though). Again, this guy has no connection to the Redskins. He's just speaking from the USC players perspective. Didn't really say much about Cushing. Sanchez says he'd be surprised to be a Redskin (which I think means "I'd be stunned if I'm not a top 10 pick")

Rey wouldn't be so bad. He's a dominant defender that will give us a hell of an insurance policy at MLB. I still say though we go for a Tackle if one's available.

[SmootSmack]

Seahawks very interested in Sanchez now as well...allegedly

[SmootSmack]

Zorn pushing hard for Sanchez by the way...again allegedly.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Zorn pushing hard for Sanchez by the way...again allegedly.

Really? I thought he supported Campbell a lot. Also do the players know all this?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Really? I thought he supported Campbell a lot. Also do the players know all this?

How much the players know, I don't know. But some of them know I'm sure...otherwise I wouldn't know all that I know...ya know?

As for Zorn telling Campbell "we're in this together" what else would he say?

The general belief is, and I've said this before, "Hey, we all love Jason. He's a great guy. And we can win with him. We just don't know if we can win because of him"

And they still like Colt but think he's two years away at best.