2011 NFL Draft

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Looks good, had at least 3 passes dropped by the WR's. He's tall and slender (will need more muscle in the pro's) he reminds me of a young Todd Collins.

His footwork is underrated, hes not very mobile but he can move around in the pocket pretty well, big arm I like him as a QB.. Kinda Flacco like also

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

His footwork is underrated, hes not very mobile but he can move around in the pocket pretty well, big arm I like him as a QB.. Kinda Flacco like also

His receivers did not help him. Other observations:

Needs to hit the weight room
Lack of mobility is a big concern.
Needs to do some work when inside the pocket.

Pretty good QB, will get better but needs to work on some things.

[Terpfan76]

I think it's far to early for people to throw in the towel on Clausen. He may never be an elite qb, but he could still be pretty damn good. He has Jonathan Stewart and that's about it on offense right now. That being said, it would be damn near impossible for the Panthers to pass on him unless someone does give up the farm for him.

I agree that the Panthers are basically just posturing in saying they are taking him if he declares for the same reason others have stated, don't devalue the pick. In the grand scheme of things, the Panthers would probably be better served trading down and filling many holes as opposed to staying put and adding to one position while still having many to fill. That is the same stance we need to take. If we can make a reasonable deal with out bankrupting the team of all of its draft picks over the next few years, then try, otherwise, taking the best available or trade down and add more picks.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Terpfan76

I think it's far to early for people to throw in the towel on Clausen. He may never be an elite qb, but he could still be pretty damn good. He has Jonathan Stewart and that's about it on offense right now. That being said, it would be damn near impossible for the Panthers to pass on him unless someone does give up the farm for him.

I agree that the Panthers are basically just posturing in saying they are taking him if he declares for the same reason others have stated, don't devalue the pick. In the grand scheme of things, the Panthers would probably be better served trading down and filling many holes as opposed to staying put and adding to one position while still having many to fill. That is the same stance we need to take. If we can make a reasonable deal with out bankrupting the team of all of its draft picks over the next few years, then try, otherwise, taking the best available or trade down and add more picks.

It would be to the Panthers' advantage to develop both Clausen and Luck. As a rebuilding team, it would be an asset for them to have a tradeable QB.

[Terpfan76]

I'm not all that high on Mallett. If he could be had in the second round, I'd be cool with him or Locker there, but not with the #10 pick. If we stay at the ten, we should be able to draft and impact rush linebacker. Tandem that with Orakpo and our 3-4 defense suddenly looks much better. The way Joseph played on the line near the end of the season, I think we can look for depth there as opposed to instant impact. A free safety at some point it a must. Kevin Barnes may be the answer but we'll have to see if he can make the transition. I'm of the mind that he can.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Terpfan76

I'm not all that high on Mallett. If he could be had in the second round, I'd be cool with him or Locker there, but not with the #10 pick. If we stay at the ten, we should be able to draft and impact rush linebacker. Tandem that with Orakpo and our 3-4 defense suddenly looks much better. The way Joseph played on the line near the end of the season, I think we can look for depth there as opposed to instant impact. A free safety at some point it a must. Kevin Barnes may be the answer but we'll have to see if he can make the transition. I'm of the mind that he can.

Agreed. Which is why I have a hunch we're taking Von Miller (which I know may be a bit high at #10) (said the guy who thought we'd take Orakpo in '09, and T Williams in '10) Opinion subject to change

And...Joseph? He was hardly a factor ,sure you're not talking about someone else?

[Terpfan76]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Agreed. Which is why I have a hunch we're taking Von Miller (which I know may be a bit high at #10) (said the guy who thought we'd take Orakpo in '09, and T Williams in '10) Opinion subject to change

And...Joseph? He was hardly a factor ,sure you're not talking about someone else?

Yup, I meant Anthony Bryant. We will still need to find someone to plug that hole in the not too distant future as Bryant is 29, but he seemed to do a pretty good job at the end of the year.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Terpfan76

Yup, I meant Anthony Bryant. We will still need to find someone to plug that hole in the not too distant future as Bryant is 29, but he seemed to do a pretty good job at the end of the year.

Bryant was good and should be in a rotation for playing time at NT, but not as a starter. We need help at NT and DE really bad. Our D-Line was the weakest area of our team IMO.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Bryant was good and should be in a rotation for playing time at NT, but not as a starter. We need help at NT and DE really bad. Our D-Line was the weakest area of our team IMO.

For much of the season that seemed the case, though the o line is still pretty sub par. Late in the season, say the last 3-4 games, the d line seemed to really pick up its play. Carriker looked good & Bryant really liked like a legit starting NT. Jarmon showed flashes too.

In particular the last 10 quarters they have looked like a different defense, and the d line was a big part of that.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Terpfan76

I'm not all that high on Mallett. If he could be had in the second round, I'd be cool with him or Locker there, but not with the #10 pick. If we stay at the ten, we should be able to draft and impact rush linebacker. Tandem that with Orakpo and our 3-4 defense suddenly looks much better. The way Joseph played on the line near the end of the season, I think we can look for depth there as opposed to instant impact. A free safety at some point it a must. Kevin Barnes may be the answer but we'll have to see if he can make the transition. I'm of the mind that he can.

I'm not either. He reminds me of David Klingler. Plus his feet are like bricks.

[DCtoAZ]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm not either. He reminds me of David Klingler. Plus his feet are like bricks.

Good CALL .. he's OK but everytime I tune in to check this kid out it seems like he is making a huge turnover and looks awkward ... even when LUCK throws an INT it looks good ...i have a weird feeling that this is going to be our draft pick .. like it or not .. Shanny/Allen won't go 2 years in a row building the DL and OL ... at least we can't trust them until they do....could be worse

[Dirtbag59]

[QUOTE=DCtoAZ;775473]Good CALL .. he's OK but everytime I tune in to check this kid out it seems like he is making a huge turnover and looks awkward ... even when LUCK throws an INT it looks good ...i have a weird feeling that this is going to be our draft pick .. like it or not .. Shanny/Allen won't go 2 years in a row building the DL and OL ... at least we can't trust them until they do....could be worse

To be fair you could easily have said the same thing about guys like Cutler, Big, Ben, Rivers, and a whole slew of other QB's before their respective drafts. Plus it's not fair at this point to compare anyone to Luck.

[htownskinfan]

I've missed the explanation,why does Dallas get to pick ahead of us? I was fking rooting for them Sunday to pull out that win then it does us no good,man that left a bad taste in my mouth

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I've missed the explanation,why does Dallas get to pick ahead of us? I was fking rooting for them Sunday to pull out that win then it does us no good,man that left a bad taste in my mouth

Because of strength of schedule. We had the same record against the same teams. But when you look at the record of the teams they played vs the record of the teams they played, their opponents' record was worse than ours. So they get the higher pick.

[celts32]

Dallas won the division last year and ended up with an easier schedule then we did. That sucks.