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[skinsfaninok]

Would you guys take Kyle Orton(Free Agent) or Kevin Kolb(unlikely) and then draft someone like J.Jones or J.Blackmon? Both of those guys are still pretty young and Orton has had 2 pretty good seasons back to back.

[skinsfaninok]

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[Longtimefan]

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[GTripp0012]

Carolina, Arizona, Minnesota, San Francisco, and Seattle are the teams that don't have a quarterback or future quarterback on their roster right now.

Washington, Miami, Tennessee, Cincinnati, and maybe Buffalo are the teams that have a starting caliber QB, but want a new one for whatever reason.

Then the "available" veterans next year will include Kyle Orton, Vince Young, Donovan McNabb, Chad Henne, Carson Palmer, and maybe Ryan Fitzpatrick, with Kevin Kolb likely being unavailable in Philadelphia.

I would rank the six QBs as follows:

1. Young
2. Henne
3. McNabb
4. Palmer
5. Orton
6. Fitzpatrick

But I think all six are capable NFL starters. Would you be interested in any of them as a short term solution?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Carolina, Arizona, Minnesota, San Francisco, and Seattle are the teams that don't have a quarterback or future quarterback on their roster right now.

Washington, Miami, Tennessee, Cincinnati, and maybe Buffalo are the teams that have a starting caliber QB, but want a new one for whatever reason.

Then the "available" veterans next year will include Kyle Orton, Vince Young, Donovan McNabb, Chad Henne, Carson Palmer, and maybe Ryan Fitzpatrick, with Kevin Kolb likely being unavailable in Philadelphia.

I would rank the six QBs as follows:

1. Young
2. Henne
3. McNabb
4. Palmer
5. Orton
6. Fitzpatrick

But I think all six are capable NFL starters. Would you be interested in any of them as a short term solution?

Henne and Palmer are NOT ahead of Orton imo, maybe not even Fitzpatrick

[mlmdub130]

anyone catch the local nbc news tonight, i love jim vance, that dude is the best. lindsay said you have to start from the bottom up, and vance responded or the top down and lindsay looked scared for her life(she was at redksin park). gotta love it

[skinsfaninok]

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Henne has more INTs than TDs in his 2 seasons as a starter, NOT GOOD.

Orton has been pretty good for 3 straight seasons now.

Palmer is done

VY is a Drama Queen and can't handle the heat.

Fitz is having a Miracle season IMO

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Henne has more INTs than TDs in his 2 seasons as a starter, NOT GOOD.

Orton has been pretty good for 3 straight seasons now.

Palmer is done

VY is a Drama Queen and can't handle the heat.

Fitz is having a Miracle season IMO

Bronco's would be stupid to let Orton go. I agree on Palmer, just goes to show you that the QB is exponentially more important than the receivers. If you thought the McNabb benching was bad wait till Shanny benches Young. Fitzpatrick plays in a system that tends to inflate a QB's numbers. Just ask Tyler Thigpen when he played for Gailey in KC.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Bronco's would be stupid to let Orton go. I agree on Palmer, just goes to show you that the QB is exponentially more important than the receivers. If you thought the McNabb benching was bad wait till Shanny benches Young. Fitzpatrick plays in a system that tends to inflate a QB's numbers. Just ask Tyler Thigpen when he played for Gailey in KC.

I would Love to get Orton, IDK why other folks on here haven't said the same thing, hes tall has a good arm and is accurate.. Please NO Vince Young in WSH!!! As for Denver, they do have Tebow and Quinn.. Don't be shocked if Orton walks this offseason. I think his overall record as a starter is something like 29-19 or something like that, I remember seeing that stat watching a Denver game this season.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I would Love to get Orton, IDK why other folks on here haven't said the same thing, hes tall has a good arm and is accurate.. Please NO Vince Young in WSH!!! As for Denver, they do have Tebow and Quinn.. Don't be shocked if Orton walks this offseason. I think his overall record as a starter is something like 29-19 or something like that, I remember seeing that stat watching a Denver game this season.

I'd be interested in seeing what Orton gets as a Free Agent.

On another note we better pray that Andrew Luck ends up in the AFC. It's already a pain knowing we're going to have to deal with the likes of Ryan and Bradford for the next 10 to 15 years. I'd hate to throw Luck into that mix as well. I mean who is going to pass up an accurate strong arm QB with an ideal build that works hard and plays well in high pressure situations.

Originally Posted by Giantone

Matty , do you really believe that?Look I dislike the guy but he had no run game his recivers were dropping balls left and right and the O line was non exsistant, add in injuries from getting nailed in the pocket 20 times a game and I would admit not a great season but I can't see saying he played his way out of the job.

Mike Wilbon on PTI was going off about this ...he thinks "Kyle needs to go ...maybe even both of them".

I disagree about the run game. When Torrain has been healthy the running game has been great. Take Torrains ypg over 16 games you have a guy that rushes for 1,286 yards. The problem has been that Torrain has been hurt way to much and the team lacks depth at RB. Another year or two of looking for diamonds in the rough and the Skins could easily find their own version of Ward-Bradshaw-Jacobs.

The problem with the running game has more to do with the fact that the Skins can't convert 3rd downs through the air to save their life which leads to many drives being cut short and many rushing attempts vanishing into thin air.

Portis, Williams, and Torrain all have averaged at least 4 yards per carry. If the team had been better able to sustain drives through third down conversions the yardage numbers would be higher.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

On another note we better pray that Andrew Luck ends up in the AFC. It's already a pain knowing we're going to have to deal with the likes of Ryan and Bradford for the next 10 to 15 years. I'd hate to throw Luck into that mix as well. I mean who is going to pass up an accurate strong arm QB with an ideal build that works hard and plays well in high pressure situations.

Well, the AFC drafted Manning, Brady, Rivers, and Brees, all the quarterbacks who dominated this decade, and we still couldn't win. Maybe we should not worry about where Andrew Luck ends up and try to actually get better as a team.

There was once a time where Matt Hasselbeck was the premier QB in the NFC, and the next best was...either Jake Delhomme or Mark Brunell. For serious.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I'd be interested in seeing what Orton gets as a Free Agent.

On another note we better pray that Andrew Luck ends up in the AFC. It's already a pain knowing we're going to have to deal with the likes of Ryan and Bradford for the next 10 to 15 years. I'd hate to throw Luck into that mix as well. I mean who is going to pass up an accurate strong arm QB with an ideal build that works hard and plays well in high pressure situations.

I think Carolina's got the fast track on getting Luck, simply because they have a legit shot at not winning another game the rest of the season and if that happens they've got the first pick. Fox will be gone next season and you can bet that w/e head coach they bring in will be tailored to help Luck become a franchise quarterback. This is what happens when the NFC is consistently the worse conference over the better part of a decade, eventually the balance of power will shift over to the NFC like it did to the AFC after the NFC's dominance over the 80's and 90's.

[MTK]

A lot of these guys won't be back anyway, and deep down they have to know that DM basically played his way out of the job.

I think this talk of MS losing the locker room is a bit overblown.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

A lot of these guys won't be back anyway, and deep down they have to know that DM basically played his way out of the job.

I think this talk of MS losing the locker room is a bit overblown.

Matty , do you really believe that?Look I dislike the guy but he had no run game his recivers were dropping balls left and right and the O line was non exsistant, add in injuries from getting nailed in the pocket 20 times a game and I would admit not a great season but I can't see saying he played his way out of the job.

Mike Wilbon on PTI was going off about this ...he thinks "Kyle needs to go ...maybe even both of them".

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Matty , do you really believe that?Look I dislike the guy but he had no run game his recivers were dropping balls left and right and the O line was non exsistant, add in injuries from getting nailed in the pocket 20 times a game and I would admit not a great season but I can't see saying he played his way out of the job.

Mike Wilbon on PTI was going off about this ...he thinks "Kyle needs to go ...maybe even both of them".

He hasn't played well and has been very inconsistent. Not all his fault but still, a lot of it is. He's been horrible on 3rd downs and has thrown too many head scratching INTs.