Trayvon Martin Case

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I wasn't saying Zimmerman had a right to the stand your ground defense. I don't think he did. Rather, I think it was Martin that could invoke the stand your ground defense. In Maryland, if he felt threatened by Zimmerman's pursuit, Martin had a duty to retreat from Zimmerman. In Florida, under the same circumstances, Martin did not.

I think, the idea that Zimmerman could invoke the "stand your ground" defense comes from the version of the story where Martin waylays Zimmerman as he returns to his car. A version not born out by the girlfriend's statement or, IMHO, a reasonable view of the scene.

Sorry, should have clarified my intent. I was expounding on your point that the law needs tweaking. Didn't mean to infer anything else.

[DynamiteRave]

I don't know if this means anything but

George Zimmerman Video Shows Injury to Back of His Head - Yahoo!

[JoeRedskin]

From the girlfriend's statement:

“He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man. I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run.”

Trayvon Martin’s girlfriends statement confirms he was murdered at gunpoint « Bazaar Daily News

[firstdown]

My point was we have to take his GF word that he said that and its not Travons words. The facts here are getting twisted with half truths etc...

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by firstdown

My point was we have to take his GF word that he said that and its not Travons words. The facts here are getting twisted with half truths etc...

Too many agendas and too few facts, coupled with people race-baiting and a piss-poor response from PD.

I'm going to give it another month to see what else shakes loose before I post again.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Too many agendas and too few facts, coupled with people race-baiting and a piss-poor response from PD.

I'm going to give it another month to see what else shakes loose before I post again.

I'll second that.

[JoeRedskin]

Speaking of agendas, half-truths, etc.

Here's what NBC News doctored tape had Zimmerman saying:

"This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black."

But here's what was really said without the edit:

Zimmerman: "This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about."

911 operator: "Okay. And this guy, is he white, black, or Hispanic?"

Zimmerman: "He looks black."

Sarah Palin, doctored Trayvon Martin tape: Shame on NBC News - baltimoresun.com

Regardless of whether or not it changes anyone's perception, why edit it in the first place. The reporting on this matter has been abysmal. <sigh>

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Speaking of agendas, half-truths, etc.



Sarah Palin, doctored Trayvon Martin tape: Shame on NBC News - baltimoresun.com

Regardless of whether or not it changes anyone's perception, why edit it in the first place. The reporting on this matter has been abysmal. <sigh>

oh wow that is really pathetic by NBC.

[NC_Skins]

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I lol'd.

Hard to know if this goes here or in the pics for sharing thread. But this works for me.

[NC_Skins]

Police Car Shot Up in Trayvon Martin's Neighborhood - Yahoo!

I absolutely detest the public media and how they've covered this case. They continue to make Trayvon's appearance as it was years ago, and not the Trayvon that was current. It's obvious to what they are doing and it's a shame a man could be convicted just off of public cries due to the influence they get from the media.

If the DA has enough evidence to counter Zimmerman's story, then by all means they need to proceed with a trial and arrest. From the sounds of it, this seems like a DA bending to public cries much like the Duke Lacrosse rape scandal. We all saw how that turned out.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Police Car Shot Up in Trayvon Martin's Neighborhood - Yahoo!

I absolutely detest the public media and how they've covered this case. They continue to make Trayvon's appearance as it was years ago, and not the Trayvon that was current. It's obvious to what they are doing and it's a shame a man could be convicted just off of public cries due to the influence they get from the media.

If the DA has enough evidence to counter Zimmerman's story, then by all means they need to proceed with a trial and arrest. From the sounds of it, this seems like a DA bending to public cries much like the Duke Lacrosse rape scandal. We all saw how that turned out.

Does it really matter how he looked? Is the life of someone who dresses like a hood rat worth more than someone who dresses like a tender naive shelter child?

A life lost is a life lost.

I'm far more concerned about what actually happened than how this kid looked at the time of death.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Does it really matter how he looked? Is the life of someone who dresses like a hood rat worth more than someone who dresses like a tender naive shelter child?

A life lost is a life lost.

I'm far more concerned about what actually happened than how this kid looked at the time of death.

I think you misinterpreted what I said. I'm saying the media is painting this image of



when in reality it was most likely closer to this....






See, had that first guy walked through the same neighborhood, I can assure you Zimmerman doesn't profile him nor would he follow him. The second guy definitely would send flags up to any neighborhood where the tenants aren't dressed as such. They are wanting to paint this image of a kid who had no reason to be profiled (which is probably not the true) and was merely shot because he was black.

That isn't the case. The truth of it is Trayvon was profiled because of his attire, and was shot because the guy following him was a overzealous asshole that took the law into his own hands even though he was told to back off.

Just report the news and stop with the agendas. Especially ones that could send a community into a race riot.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Police Car Shot Up in Trayvon Martin's Neighborhood - Yahoo!

I absolutely detest the public media and how they've covered this case. They continue to make Trayvon's appearance as it was years ago, and not the Trayvon that was current. It's obvious to what they are doing and it's a shame a man could be convicted just off of public cries due to the influence they get from the media.

If the DA has enough evidence to counter Zimmerman's story, then by all means they need to proceed with a trial and arrest. From the sounds of it, this seems like a DA bending to public cries much like the Duke Lacrosse rape scandal. We all saw how that turned out.

I couldn't agree more. It is sad a person died, either way. But this is what I have been saying all along. They show a picture of a 12 year old kid to drub up sympathy and tug at your heartstrings. If they would have showed the real Trayvon as he looked today and as many people have already seen, i doubt there would be much sympathy, if any...

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Speaking of agendas, half-truths, etc.



Sarah Palin, doctored Trayvon Martin tape: Shame on NBC News - baltimoresun.com

Regardless of whether or not it changes anyone's perception, why edit it in the first place. The reporting on this matter has been abysmal. <sigh>

There should be some sort of FCC regulations that prevent agencies from doing this. Doctoring/editing footage to incite racial issues is about the scummiest thing you could do. You understand now why I have such a disdain for corporate media?