Around the NFL Div. Round Playoffs

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by irish

After watching Newton and Kapernick its obvious that RG has a lot of developing to do at QB before he plays at their level.

really? I never really come away super impressed with those 2 as passers.

I usually come away more impressed by the defensive side of the ball. I wonder how good would RG3 with either top 5 defenses?

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

really? I never really come away super impressed with those 2 as passers.

I usually come away more impressed by the defensive side of the ball. I wonder how good would RG3 with either top 5 defenses?

I think if RG3 just gets to where he can throw confidently off his bad knee, he'll be fine passing.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

I think if RG3 just gets to where he can throw confidently off his bad knee, he'll be fine passing.

right, like the year before fully healthy? Yeah I think so

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

right, like the year before fully healthy? Yeah I think so

Yeah, his rookie year until the Baltimore Ratbird game.

[Starry Plough]

Originally Posted by irish

After watching Newton and Kapernick its obvious that RG has a lot of developing to do at QB before he plays at their level.

Different circumstances bud. Cam has shown enough progress this season to suggest his development is getting there yes, but Carolina’s revival was more on the D looking formidable at times down the stretch. Same can apply to Kaep. Not that I'm disputing that Robert does need to show improvement going forward, but put a healthy #10 on either of those teams and there would be no discussion about the level he’s at. Keep the faith.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Starry Plough

Different circumstances bud. Cam has shown enough progress this season to suggest his development is getting there yes, but Carolina’s revival was more on the D looking formidable at times down the stretch. Same can apply to Kaep. Not that I'm disputing that Robert does need to show improvement going forward, but put a healthy #10 on either of those teams and there would be no discussion about the level he’s at. Keep the faith.

Agree that Car was more about D than O. I think RG can run with Cam or Kaep (even though he's not nearly as big as they are) I dont think his passing is as accurate as Cam or Kaep. Personally I think if RG plays for either of those teams this year they dont make the playoffs.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by irish

Agree that Car was more about D than O. I think RG can run with Cam or Kaep (even though he's not nearly as big as they are) I dont think his passing is as accurate as Cam or Kaep. Personally I think if RG plays for either of those teams this year they dont make the playoffs.

So both QB were healthy with good pass protecting Oline. Give both things to RG3, he might surprise you.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by irish

After watching Newton and Kapernick its obvious that RG has a lot of developing to do at QB before he plays at their level.

So that must means Kirk Cousins shouldn't even be in the NFL at all.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by irish

After watching Newton and Kapernick its obvious that RG has a lot of developing to do at QB before he plays at their level.

Let's give RG3 the full off season and judge him after next season. To be fair those two haven't had a serious injury.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by irish

After watching Newton and Kapernick its obvious that RG has a lot of developing to do at QB before he plays at their level.

Really? I think people are getting confused with these QBs due to winning. Both those guys are run first QBs

[irish]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Really? I think people are getting confused with these QBs due to winning. Both those guys are run first QBs

So is RG.

I think we'd all like to get confused about RG due to winning.

[skinsfan69]

I think Kap is better than Newton, RG3 and Wilson.

[MTK]

Newton >> Kap.

Kap bails out of the pocket way too often when his first read isn't there.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by irish

So is RG.

I think we'd all like to get confused about RG due to winning.

Well we did last yr and if Griffin was on SF or Car he'd be winning as well. When u don't have to worry about scoring a bunch its easy to just look good winning. Think about how mad people would be if Wilson was out there for us throwing for 150 yards a game lmao everyone would be calling for cousins over Wilson.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Well we did last yr and if Griffin was on SF or Car he'd be winning as well. When u don't have to worry about scoring a bunch its easy to just look good winning. Think about how mad people would be if Wilson was out there for us throwing for 150 yards a game lmao everyone would be calling for cousins over Wilson.

For example ... as to points allowed, SF's defense has been ranked 2, 2, and 3 under the current regime. Conversely, it's offense has been ranked ~11th in points each year but 24th, 11th, 26th in yards. Given the disparity between points v. yards on offense, it is pretty clear that SF's O has been the beneficiary of great field position. Not knocking the SF offense - it's okay, just nothing special.

SF stopped Carolina 7 times from the 1-yard line. Had they not, it is likely SF doesn't win the game.