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Old 01-13-2015, 07:21 PM   #1
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Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015

I ain't got to lie Craig, I'm willing to let Allen have another year of being Danny's lackey. I want to believe hiring Scot Mcshamalamadingdong was a step in the right direction. My problem was never with Bruce Allen, aka the guy who has done a decent job of not handing out bad contracts/prob had something to do with us moving back to Richmond for TC/deserves some credit for restoring bad relationships between Snyder/former 'Skins greats. My problem was with Bruce Allen, guy in charge of the 53. He was long overdue to get out of that role, and to his credit he got us a guy who has a great track record in his last 2 stops in that role. For me, as long as Scot has final say over the 53 (which it appears he does) I am willing to give Bruce some more time. If at this time next year it looks like Bruce has his fingerprints all over another terrible season, let's pull out the pitchforks.
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Old 01-13-2015, 09:14 PM   #2
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People need to get the f*ck over the fact that Snyder owns his team and he'll have some type of influence over everything that happens. People keep calling Bruce Allen a lackey...so what is he supposed to do? Tell Snyder to go f*ck himself all the time?

Maybe I'm an optimist, but it seems like we have something we haven't had in a while in terms of a good money person (BA) and a good talent evaluator (McC). Hopefully between the two of them they can give the Gruden the tools he needs to succeed...and hopefully Gruden can prove he's a good coach.
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Old 01-13-2015, 09:30 PM   #3
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People need to get the f*ck over the fact that Snyder owns his team and he'll have some type of influence over everything that happens. People keep calling Bruce Allen a lackey...so what is he supposed to do? Tell Snyder to go f*ck himself all the time?

Maybe I'm an optimist, but it seems like we have something we haven't had in a while in terms of a good money person (BA) and a good talent evaluator (McC). Hopefully between the two of them they can give the Gruden the tools he needs to succeed...and hopefully Gruden can prove he's a good coach.
I concur
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Old 01-13-2015, 09:36 PM   #4
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People need to get the f*ck over the fact that Snyder owns his team and he'll have some type of influence over everything that happens. People keep calling Bruce Allen a lackey...so what is he supposed to do? Tell Snyder to go f*ck himself all the time?

Maybe I'm an optimist, but it seems like we have something we haven't had in a while in terms of a good money person (BA) and a good talent evaluator (McC). Hopefully between the two of them they can give the Gruden the tools he needs to succeed...and hopefully Gruden can prove he's a good coach.
well said...it's not just you being optimistic...things really are looking up.
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Old 01-13-2015, 09:41 PM   #5
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People need to get the f*ck over the fact that Snyder owns his team and he'll have some type of influence over everything that happens. People keep calling Bruce Allen a lackey...so what is he supposed to do? Tell Snyder to go f*ck himself all the time?

Maybe I'm an optimist, but it seems like we have something we haven't had in a while in terms of a good money person (BA) and a good talent evaluator (McC). Hopefully between the two of them they can give the Gruden the tools he needs to succeed...and hopefully Gruden can prove he's a good coach.
Exactly. A billionaire's employee is going to control what the billionaire does with what he owns as much as the billionaire allows it.

I have no problems with Bruce staying on as president. We have a gm with a scouting background now with a successful track record. This seems to be prototypical in the league because he can recognize good players and, just as important, good scouts.

I genuinely believe Bruce wants to win and is aware of his shortcomings in evaluating talent, hence the new gm. He is a good ambassador who loves the team. No harm in his current role.
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Old 01-13-2015, 09:38 PM   #6
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The vast majority of the folks who post negative stuff on all redskin forums would p*ss all over themselves if Dan Snyder offered them a job doing anything for the REDSKINS..
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Old 01-13-2015, 09:41 PM   #7
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The vast majority of the folks who post negative stuff on all redskin forums would p*ss all over themselves if Dan Snyder offered them a job doing anything for the REDSKINS..
I would pack my stuff and leave tonight.
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Old 01-13-2015, 10:48 PM   #8
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Maybe I'm missing something, but to me when Snyder was clearly overreaching with his authority it was manifested in big free agent splashes brought in by sickening courting practices with Redskins One, fine dining, and ridiculous contracts. Then he tried mixing things up on the coaching end of things bringing in a proven hard ass coach, then an up and comer, then grasping for hope with Gibbs 2.0, etc.

One thing I can say is that since Bruce has been here they seemed to have been more responsible in free agency avoiding Big splashes and giving smart contracts. It actually seemed like they were attempting to build through the draft (of course the RG3 trade was probably counter productive in that arena), but the problem was that they just didn't have the scouting talent. I mean, Shanahan could pick RB's and knew the type of lineman he wanted, and Bruce helped him get those pieces.

Then without Shanny Bruce made a go of it this past offseason. He seemed to do a good job of searching for a new head coach, did a pretty thorough search, and brought in a guy who is if nothing else speaking his mind. Also, with a pretty even keeled approach to free agency was able to pull off arguably the best value acquisition of anyone in DJax. Bruce was also reaching out for a lot of help it seems from multiple guys with scouting talent. So, it looks like he failed, as a GM making personnel decisions, but so what, now he has brought in what many believe to be the best personnel guy out there.

Anyways, to me, it seems pretty clear that Snyder has not been as hands on as he once was in personnel matters, and if he has been, Bruce has at least taught him not to over reach or make hasty decisions with coaches and players (RG3 being perhaps the one exception) and not to over pay. Bruce alone (or with Snyder) has failed, and now they brought in someone to fill the vacuum of talent evaluation. So, Either Snyder has backed off, or is learning to listen to the football people more and will maybe learn more about bringing in talent from SM. If this is all true, then I think Bruce is doing a fine job of managing Snyder.
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:10 AM   #9
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Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015

Hearing on twitter it's Joe Barry as DC and Morris stays as DB coach (could be just rumors). If that's the case, I'm a bit confused- but mostly tired and I don't care. It's a rebuilding process and can't wait to draft actual players that can play regardless of who's coaching.

Probably my favorite part of being a fan is watching young drafted talent evolve to become NFL pro talent. Lot of hope for GM-SM.
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:37 AM   #10
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Hearing on twitter it's Joe Barry as DC and Morris stays as DB coach (could be just rumors). If that's the case, I'm a bit confused- but mostly tired and I don't care. It's a rebuilding process and can't wait to draft actual players that can play regardless of who's coaching.

Probably my favorite part of being a fan is watching young drafted talent evolve to become NFL pro talent. Lot of hope for GM-SM.
I'm hearing that there will be more interviews.
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Old 01-14-2015, 09:01 AM   #11
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I'm hearing that there will be more interviews.
There certainly should be as it it looks like better candidates will soon be available , e.g. Schwartz and Fangio).
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Old 01-13-2015, 11:50 PM   #12
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Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015

Can we just hire someone as coordinator already? I am burning thru all my monthly internet package on my phone checking for updates all the time.
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Old 01-14-2015, 09:40 AM   #13
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Re: New Defensive Coordinator 2015

According to Ian Rapoport sounds like it's going to be Joe Barry as DC, per sources, per twitter
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Old 01-14-2015, 09:44 AM   #14
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According to Ian Rapoport sounds like it's going to be Joe Barry as DC, per sources, per twitter
John Keim ‏@john_keim 3s3 seconds ago
Talked to person involved in #Redskins def coord search; said no decision has been made on the job. @RapSheet reporting it'll be Joe Barry

John Keim ‏@john_keim 6m6 minutes ago
Doesn't mean it still won't be barry; makes sense. heard good things about his interview. has energy. But just that nothing is final
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Old 01-14-2015, 09:46 AM   #15
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With all of the other names out there, I really hope we don't land on Barry as our final answer.....
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