Welcome Carson Wentz

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Another very telling stat, Wentz was a 50% passer on plays that were not screens. 30th in the NFL.

I'll say it again though. Why are you comparing his stats in a vacuum? What about his receivers? Were they open? How much time did he have in the pocket? Do you think any of that factors into a statistic like that?

He made some boneheaded reads and throws last season, I'll give you that but you're making him out to be in the bottom half of the league and that just isn't true.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Swarley

I'll say it again though. Why are you comparing his stats in a vacuum? What about his receivers? Were they open? How much time did he have in the pocket? Do you think any of that factors into a statistic like that?

He made some boneheaded reads and throws last season, I'll give you that but you're making him out to be in the bottom half of the league and that just isn't true.

I think he is a bottom half QB. Never liked him. Indy has good wr's and the best back in the league and a very good o-line.

For those of you who are old enough, Wentz reminds me exactly of Jay Schroeder.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think he is a bottom half QB. Never liked him. Indy has good wr's and the best back in the league and a very good o-line.

For those of you who are old enough, Wentz reminds me exactly of Jay Schroeder.

Not a bad comparison.

Schroeder took us to the NFC Championship in 86 and the Raiders to the AFC Championship in 89. I'd take that from Wentz.

I think Schroeder was maybe a little more disliked by his teammates. Wentz seems to have his share of supporters from the Colts.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

Not a bad comparison.

Schroeder took us to the NFC Championship in 86 and the Raiders to the AFC Championship in 89. I'd take that from Wentz.

I think Schroeder was maybe a little more disliked by his teammates. Wentz seems to have his share of supporters from the Colts.

I think the whole "leadership issues" with Wentz was just shit made up by Irsay to justify his knee jerk reaction to get rid of him.

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think he is a bottom half QB. Never liked him. Indy has good wr's and the best back in the league and a very good o-line.

For those of you who are old enough, Wentz reminds me exactly of Jay Schroeder.

They do not have good WR's, they basically have Michael Pittman Jr. and TY who missed a good chunk of the season, and was barely a factor when he did return.

This very good o-line was absolutely terrible at pass pro, way worse than our own team and we barely had starters playing.

but it is what it is I guess, I'll leave it here because I'm sure you've fully made up your mind.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Swarley

They do not have good WR's, they basically have Michael Pittman Jr. and TY who missed a good chunk of the season, and was barely a factor when he did return.

This very good o-line was absolutely terrible at pass pro, way worse than our own team and we barely had starters playing.

but it is what it is I guess, I'll leave it here because I'm sure you've fully made up your mind.

Well we shall see. You can throw all the stats out the window, the facts are in a QB starved league two teams kicked him to the curb. Those two teams really didn't or don't have good QB options but they both didn't care and moved on from him. That to me is the most telling thing over any stat. Two NFL former QB's were head coaches of those teams.

Scott needs to roll up his sleeves on this one. If he gets this guy right and somehow get the 2017 Wentz then Scott and Zampese are the MVP's of this team and the trade was a steal. But I doubt that happens.

I'm drafting Garrett Wilson. We are going to need to get another stud wr for Wentz.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Another very telling stat, Wentz was a 50% passer on plays that were not screens. 30th in the NFL.

Please don't share anymore about him LOL. I already don't like the move. This has turned me into crying jordan.

That is a terrible stat.

Just proves he leaves lots of yards on the field. No NFL QB should be completing less than 60%.

[Chief X_Phackter]

The only stats that matter to me at this point is what happens in 2022. Throw the rest of them out. New team, new coaches, fresh start. I am now a Carson Wentz fan because he is the QB of my team. End of story.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

The only stats that matter to me at this point is what happens in 2022. Throw the rest of them out. New team, new coaches, fresh start. I am now a Carson Wentz fan because he is the QB of my team. End of story.

Agreed. Surround him with some more weapons and let's go.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

The only stats that matter to me at this point is what happens in 2022. Throw the rest of them out. New team, new coaches, fresh start. I am now a Carson Wentz fan because he is the QB of my team. End of story.

This , there is no point and hating on the dude.. When he was beating us in Philly we all would have loved to have him.. That MNF Game he made some amazing plays

[MTK]

QBR rankings for 2021

For the stats don't matter crowd, it's hard to blow off QBR as meaningless

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

QBR rankings for 2021

For the stats don't matter crowd, it's hard to blow off QBR as meaningless

Definitely my go to for comprehensive QB comparison

[Chief X_Phackter]

https://sports.yahoo.com/three-quart...194500500.html

"After canvassing the NFL in an attempt to acquire their next franchise quarterback, the Commanders narrowed their options down to Rodgers, Wilson, Wentz, Deshaun Watson, Jimmy Garoppolo and free agent Mitchell Trubisky according to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler."

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Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

https://sports.yahoo.com/three-quart...194500500.html

"After canvassing the NFL in an attempt to acquire their next franchise quarterback, the Commanders narrowed their options down to Rodgers, Wilson, Wentz, Deshaun Watson, Jimmy Garoppolo and free agent Mitchell Trubisky according to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler."

Surprised Winston wasn’t on that list.

Has it has been a while since we had a quarterback with a cannon for an arm? I know that isn’t everything, but man it will be nice to see him step into one and at the very least not worry about get it batted down because he is 6 foot tall, or fluttering from the sky to the ground like a baby bird….

I swear it looked like TH was throwing balloons sometimes.

P.S. 10 inch hands so there is that.

[punch it in]

Hysterical