WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

That doesn't make much sense to me. Releasing him would be letting the players run the show, and that would be more of the past 10 years. MS and BA have set basic standards, and said what was acceptable.

I think what we are seeing, and haven't seen in a long time, is a functional team operating with an irrational player. The coach has basically said I will deal with who shows and is going to give their all to this team. He, or the GM but not the owner, has privately discussed AH's situation with AH and his agent, and with the player still behaving badly, you see a defensive leader given the ok to basically call out the troublemaker and try to let locker room leaders keep control of the media, so that they aren't harassing everyone all the time.
I hope AH wakes up, gets his butt in line and plays for the Skins lights out, but overall the way the organization has handled this card that they were dealt seems very promising for the future.

After what has gone down, how can Shanahan allow AH to be in the Redskins locker room? If the Redskins do not release him, then I don't think that they are allowed, based on the labor agreement, to bar him from their facility. IMO, the best thing for the Redskins is to not allow the situation where the players must be around him. He needs to be gone and forgotten, never to be seen at Redskins Park again.

If they need to release him, so be it. That does not mean that the players are still running the show. By now, the other players know in their hearts that Shanahan is running the show. The Haynesworth fiasco is on Vinnie's record, not Shananhan's. All Shanahan would be doing is getting rid of the last vestiges of the old regime. To me, that says that the inmates are no longer running the asylum.

IMO, the most likely scenario is that the Redskins will soon put an end to this entire Haynesworth mess and part with him, one way or another. Honestly, as a fan, I don't care how they go about it. I just want him to be gone. Soon.

[skinsfan69]

I can only imagine what fat albert is doing with that 21 mil down in south beach. I know one thing his fat ass isn't doing and that's working out. And I bet that is one of the reasons he didn't show his fat face cause he's horribly out of shape.

[CRedskinsRule]

and another zinger from the Twitterverse

Adam Schefter

Just landed in DC. Unlike others, I'm showing up for the Redskins mandatory minicamp. 3 minutes ago via UberTwitter

[CRedskinsRule]

KI - if you cut him he gets what he wants, and MS looks doubly the idiot ESPECIALLY if the 3-4 fails to work. You put him on the bench, say we paid you a hefty sum, and now this is what we expect. If the 3-4 doesn't work, you have switch to the 4-3 and everyone "wins" in a bad situation. If the 3-4 does work, after a sufficient cooling off period, you put him in like you were going to, in the 4-3 situations and back up Kemo when he needs rest. If AH just never shows up, you file paperwork to get your money back and make him sit out a year. Just cutting him is IMO, a weak lazy response to getting through this situation.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

KI - if you cut him he gets what he wants, and MS looks doubly the idiot ESPECIALLY if the 3-4 fails to work. You put him on the bench, say we paid you a hefty sum, and now this is what we expect. If the 3-4 doesn't work, you have switch to the 4-3 and everyone "wins" in a bad situation. If the 3-4 does work, after a sufficient cooling off period, you put him in like you were going to, in the 4-3 situations and back up Kemo when he needs rest. If AH just never shows up, you file paperwork to get your money back and make him sit out a year. Just cutting him is IMO, a weak lazy response to getting through this situation.

Agreed, no way they should cut him. Go after his bonus and let his ass sit out.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

KI - if you cut him he gets what he wants, and MS looks doubly the idiot ESPECIALLY if the 3-4 fails to work. You put him on the bench, say we paid you a hefty sum, and now this is what we expect. If the 3-4 doesn't work, you have switch to the 4-3 and everyone "wins" in a bad situation. If the 3-4 does work, after a sufficient cooling off period, you put him in like you were going to, in the 4-3 situations and back up Kemo when he needs rest. If AH just never shows up, you file paperwork to get your money back and make him sit out a year. Just cutting him is IMO, a weak lazy response to getting through this situation.

I understand your position. I think you're coming at this from the POV of how to make the best use of a valuable asset. On the other hand, my POV is that there is a spirit and a unity on this team that we haven't seen for a while and I just wouldn't want to see AH come back in here and upset the apple cart with his bad attitude and lack of cooperation with his coaches and teammates.

He's a bad teammate. He'll never be satisfied with his role. He'll never play the defense the coaches call. He doesn't care about winning, despite his claims to the contrary. As talented as he is, he's not worth having around if he drags down the rest of the team. I don't think he will necessarily be cut. He may be traded for a ham sandwich.

As far as his not showing up for training camp, NFW would he not show up. It's all about the money for him and not showing up would create his first real exposure to losing the $21M bonus. I have accepted the possibility that this POS may get away with stealing tens of millions of dollars from our beloved team but I won't accept the possibility that he could be allowed to continue fouling our locker room with his toxic presence. After all, for me, as a fan, it's all about winning and supporting my team. He doesn't care about either of those things, so I don't want him here.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I understand your position. I think you're coming at this from the POV of how to make the best use of a valuable asset. On the other hand, my POV is that there is a spirit and a unity on this team that we haven't seen for a while and I just wouldn't want to see AH come back in here and upset the apple cart with his bad attitude and lack of cooperation with his coaches and teammates.

He's a bad teammate. He'll never be satisfied with his role. He'll never play the defense the coaches call. He doesn't care about winning, despite his claims to the contrary. As talented as he is, he's not worth having around if he drags down the rest of the team. I don't think he will necessarily be cut. He may be traded for a ham sandwich.

As far as his not showing up for training camp, NFW would he not show up. It's all about the money for him and not showing up would create his first real exposure to losing the $21M bonus. I have accepted the possibility that this POS may get away with stealing tens of millions of dollars from our beloved team but I won't accept the possibility that he could be allowed to continue fouling our locker room with his toxic presence. After all, for me, as a fan, it's all about winning and supporting my team. He doesn't care about either of those things, so I don't want him here.

Unity is not a problem when the entire locker room is disappointed or totally ticked off at the guy and he's riding the inactive list every week. He'll be ostracized by everyone.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Unity is not a problem when the entire locker room is disappointed or totally ticked off at the guy and he's riding the inactive list every week. He'll be ostracized by everyone.

Agree. The team seems quite unified in it's criticism of Albert's behavior.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Agree. The team seems quite unified in it's criticism of Albert's behavior.

There's a lesson learned from this debacle. Future high-priced FA's will no longer be able to expect an easy in-road to the Redskins.

[CRedskinsRule]

Also, Shanahan "allows" AH back in to the locker room based on AH's contract, and when in he holds him to the same standard he holds every other player. Show up, earn your spot, and you will play, otherwise you ride the bench until your contract expires, or we have gotten our value from you. For AH, that value part means we aint just gonna show him the door for nothing.

[SolidSnake84]

But don't you feel like it is a waste to pay him his contract if the guy is not going to practice or participate?? He signs a 100 million contract and we are going to pay him through the duration of it even if the guy doesn't show up???

[scowan]

At this point, I want us to NOT trade him and just fine his a** everytime he misses something. I know everyone thinks Snyder is a joke, but honestly after hearing what Shannahan gave AH as options (i.e. don't take the money and we will trade you) and then he takes the money anyway???? Dan Snyder got screwed and that's just wrong, I don't care how you feel about Dan Snyder.

The Skins can get their money back by just fineing his butt into eternity for everything he misses.

I respect London Fletcher and the stuff he has said about AH is probably right on. London wants guys he can depend on and London is a real class act. Wow, AH could learn a lot form London Fletcher.

[CRedskinsRule]

If he doesn't show up, we can go after him for failure to live up to the contract. What is a waste is to pay 21Mill and then not try to get him to honor it.

[scowan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

If he doesn't show up, we can go after him for failure to live up to the contract. What is a waste is to pay 21Mill and then not try to get him to honor it.

CRedskinsRule, I know you want AH to "honor" his contract, but at this point he would just be going through the motions and not really be trying, which is what London Fletcher is talking about. Either you are all in, or you are out, I think.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

If he doesn't show up, we can go after him for failure to live up to the contract. What is a waste is to pay 21Mill and then not try to get him to honor it.

We can also suspend him a la Keyshawn and TO. Then he cannot be a distraction because everyone will know that he effectively is not on the team.