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Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?

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View Poll Results: 2011 Opening Day Starting QB
John Beck 7 3.48%
Rex Grossman 84 41.79%
Donovan McNabb 18 8.96%
Jake Locker 16 7.96%
Andrew Luck 10 4.98%
Ryan Mallett 12 5.97%
Cam Newton 15 7.46%
Some Other QB Out of College 9 4.48%
Some Other QB in the NFL 30 14.93%
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Old 12-31-2010, 12:28 AM   #1
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Re: Who Will Be The Redskins 2011 Opening Day Starting QB?

The guy who would be really, really good here as quarterback is Carson Palmer.

With that said, you can't make the Bengals give him up for a really small pricetag. And it wouldn't make sense if they actually wanted to get return on their investment. But the Bengals are cheap, and if they actually do plan on drafting Ryan Mallett to jumpstart a rebuilding project, they'd essentially take little value to sell Palmer's contract. So you could get a very valuable QB for a fourth round pick, and in the process, help set the market for McNabb.

Alternatively, I think that Chad Henne could be a nice target in a McNabb deal. Miami gets McNabb. We get Henne and a sixth round draft choice. I don't think he'd be as good of an acquisition as Palmer. But better and cheaper than, say, Kyle Orton.
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The guy who would be really, really good here as quarterback is Carson Palmer.
With that said, you can't make the Bengals give him up for a really small pricetag. And it wouldn't make sense if they actually wanted to get return on their investment. But the Bengals are cheap, and if they actually do plan on drafting Ryan Mallett to jumpstart a rebuilding project, they'd essentially take little value to sell Palmer's contract. So you could get a very valuable QB for a fourth round pick, and in the process, help set the market for McNabb.

Alternatively, I think that Chad Henne could be a nice target in a McNabb deal. Miami gets McNabb. We get Henne and a sixth round draft choice. I don't think he'd be as good of an acquisition as Palmer. But better and cheaper than, say, Kyle Orton.
This would be best case scenario outside of drafting Luck. Palmer has gotten a little of the Philly McNabb scapegoat treatment surprisingly outta cincy...I think there is going to be massive change up there in the offseason, Palmer coming to the Skins would be a dream
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Old 01-03-2011, 02:51 AM   #3
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The guy who would be really, really good here as quarterback is Carson Palmer.

With that said, you can't make the Bengals give him up for a really small pricetag. And it wouldn't make sense if they actually wanted to get return on their investment. But the Bengals are cheap, and if they actually do plan on drafting Ryan Mallett to jumpstart a rebuilding project, they'd essentially take little value to sell Palmer's contract. So you could get a very valuable QB for a fourth round pick, and in the process, help set the market for McNabb.

Alternatively, I think that Chad Henne could be a nice target in a McNabb deal. Miami gets McNabb. We get Henne and a sixth round draft choice. I don't think he'd be as good of an acquisition as Palmer. But better and cheaper than, say, Kyle Orton.
We'll just give you Henne and you can keep McNabb, ok?.
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According to my college passers spreadsheet....

For Mallett: Matt Ryan is pretty close, JaMarcus Russell is pretty close, Josh Freeman is probably the closest, Kyle Orton and Vince Young are in the neighborhood.

For Newton: Really close to Mark Sanchez, not close at all to anyone else.

For Ponder: Nearly identical to Jimmy Clausen, John Beck is close, Troy Smith is kinda close, Joe Flacco is kinda close, Brian Brohm is pretty close, Matt Leinart is close, as well as Kellen Clemens and Dan Orlovsky. Those comparable conjure up a lot of epic fails, but some successes and I'd take that over what I'm getting for Newton.

For Devlin: Not surprisingly, Joe Flacco. Dennis Dixon, Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, Sean Canfield.

For Locker: Jay Cutler is closest. Also close: Tarvaris Jackson, Tyler Thigpen, Matt Stafford. Andrew Walter and Derek Anderson also really close.

For Gabbert: Matt Moore is really close, JaMarcus Russell is close, Joe Flacco is close, Josh Freeman is pretty close, Vince Young is closest, Ryan Fitzpatrick is in the neighborhood. Tony Pike and Bill Stull are the most recent ones who are similar. Gabbert looks GREAT next year at this time if he stays in school. Then he looks like Sam Bradford.

For Foles: See Devlin. Numbers, despite differences in competition, are near identical.

For Kaepernick: Kevin Kolb, Brady Quinn, Chad Henne, Jay Cutler, Kyle Orton, Charlie Whitehurst.

All of these estimations are really premature.
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Saw the ESPN projection board this morning on the draft. Has Cam at #12..........much can and WILL change before draft day.............BUT.....interesting
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Saw the ESPN projection board this morning on the draft. Has Cam at #12..........much can and WILL change before draft day.............BUT.....interesting
Cam Newton is my decoy. I want his stock to sore before the draft and give us a better chance between getting our pick of the litter with QB's that have actually played for more then one year. Heck if things go well enough and an official rookie wage scale is implemented we could even trade down and still end up with out guy. In the mean time bring back Mark Rypien.
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Old 01-03-2011, 08:23 PM   #7
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Cam Newton is my decoy. I want his stock to sore before the draft and give us a better chance between getting our pick of the litter with QB's that have actually played for more then one year. Heck if things go well enough and an official rookie wage scale is implemented we could even trade down and still end up with out guy. In the mean time bring back Mark Rypien.
It would indeed warm the cockles of my heart to get a QB for the future to build around....if we do not have to give away the future to get him.......
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I really hope we don't bring in Cam Newton ... I sincerely believe the guy has bust written all over him
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I really hope we don't bring in Cam Newton ... I sincerely believe the guy has bust written all over him
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Kyle Orton, Alex Smith, Rex Grossman. One of these 3 guys will be our QB.
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Kyle Orton, Alex Smith, Rex Grossman. One of these 3 guys will be our QB.
You've been reading to much Smootsmack. Everyone knows we're going to trade our first round pick to the Steelers for Hines Ward and move him back to his natural position, Quarterback.
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Skins reportedly working on deal with Grossman. Doesn't mean he's their starter for 2011 though.

Also, some talks of working on moving Donovan for a 3rd and conditional 6th. Personally, I think that rumor is bogus

I've heard a few people say with the probable advent of an 18 game season, teams are feeling more pressure to carry 2 starting caliber QBs...which is interesting
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Grossman solidified at least a backup spot if not a chance to compete for a starting job. He is not our long term answer but if you build the line a QB will come.
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If this kid Luck is as good as they say, we should try to trade our 1st rd this year, a second next year and Donavan McNabb to Carolina.
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If this kid Luck is as good as they say, we should try to trade our 1st rd this year, a second next year and Donavan McNabb to Carolina.
If Luck comes out and that team with the first pick needs a QB then the chances of getting him are moot. The type of trade you would need to get that first overall pick would look something like trading away an established young QB like Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco along with your teams first round pick. The way it looks to everyone is that this kid is a once in a generation, can't miss prospect. The type of player that even five first round picks couldn't pry away.

NFL scouts look at him the same way people saw way hockey scouts looked at Sidney Crosby back in 2005. Another good parallel would be baseball scouts evaluating Strasburg in 2009.

I cannot stress enough how highly regarded Luck is as a pro prospect. He has all the physical, mental, and intangible tools you look for in a QB. Including but not limited to height, arm strength, accuracy, leadership, experience in a pro system, Football IQ, regular IQ, and work ethic. Heck the guy even has the ability to gain yards with his legs.

The only thing we can hope is that he comes out next year and an AFC team gets the number one pick, because I can assure you, you don't want to play against this guy in the playoffs once he fully develops.
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