Redskins @ Titans Thread

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

This is an Excellent point.

My only concern is with all the talk of eventually trading Cousins, why not have someone groomed to replace our #2 on our practice squad...perhaps it is someone that will be cut.

Read my updated Roster I just posted in the final 53 thread to see if what I posted makes sense.

[JoeRedskin]

I ask this seriously, b/c I can't remember, did any throw by PW travel more than 20 yards through the air (from his hand to the point of reception)?

And yeah, Matty, I could count drink my beer, check the twitter feeds and post in the game thread while PW was delivering the ball. You could really see this at training camp. When the 4 QB's were throwing, RGIII's ball invariably arrived first and generally with time to switch and watch another receiver make a catch. PW's ball was almost always the last to get from QB to receiver - regardless of the drill.

With PW in there, the field shrinks to about 20 yards past the line of scrimmage and mediocre man coverage wins. At least Grossman can make all the throws. If we really ever needed to play our 3rd QB in a game situation, Grossman over White every time.

If your argument is PW is the next Colt Brennan, I think you have already proved the "PW not making the roster" crowd's case.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I ask this seriously, b/c I can't remember, did any throw by PW travel more than 20 yards through the air (from his hand to the point of reception)?

And yeah, Matty, I could count drink my beer, check the twitter feeds and post in the game thread while PW was delivering the ball. You could really see this at training camp. When the 4 QB's were throwing, RGIII's ball invariably arrived first and generally with time to switch and watch another receiver make a catch. PW's ball was almost always the last to get from QB to receiver - regardless of the drill.

With PW in there, the field shrinks to about 20 yards past the line of scrimmage and mediocre man coverage wins. At least Grossman can make all the throws. If we really ever needed to play our 3rd QB in a game situation, Grossman over White every time.

If your argument is PW is the next Colt Brennan, I think you have already proved the "PW not making the roster" crowd's case.

I guess if you think McNabb is better then Brennan then you got him.

[mredskins]

I think it should be a rule moving forward the first post in every game day thread is this:

[donofriose]

I love preseason football, people actually debate about important vital components to the Redskins like who would be the better 3rd string quarterback... Pat White vs. Rex Grossman

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by donofriose

I love preseason football, people actually debate about important vital components to the Redskins like who would be the better 3rd string quarterback... Pat White vs. Rex Grossman

To be honest this is a blessing twist. We could be talking about who the starting QB should be and how bad they suck like we have done for over 10 yrs.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

To be honest this is a blessing twist. We could be talking about who the starting QB should be and how bad they suck like we have done for over 10 yrs.

I'll give you that one.

[SBXVII]

Look I'm in no way saying PW is our savior and better then RG3 or Cousins. All I'm saying is we know what we have in Grossman and in my opinion as a player he does not offer much. Does that mean PW offers more? no but he's younger and more mobile.

You want to solve the problem? Lets pick up a Rookie QB and stick him on the PS to develop for when we trade Cousins away for draft picks next year.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

We might as well debate who the backup long snapper should be. That would probably be a more productive discussion.

Barring injury White isn't making the team, sorry.

Productive disscusion? About the first preseason game? This is a message board on the Internet right? The best one out there in my opinion, but none the less a message board. We are merly looking for someone to root for and make the preseason a little more exciting and half of you guys wanna shoot it down like we are saying he should start week one. I mean the kid had a damn nice game, even against 4th and 3rd stringers. And as someone who has followed him in college, his accuracy looked a lot better last night. And for the rest of the preseason you can bet I'll be pullin for him. It will at a minimum make the games that much more entertaining.

And also who's to say they don't keep him to use a backup qb and utility player. Toss him in some crazy formations. If this was RG and Kirk's first year I would understand the whole Rex is learning them to the game argument. But this is the second season and I don't know what Rex has left to teach RG or Kirk. If white doesn't make the team I hope Rex doesn't either. I'd rather have two qb's and give that roster spot to someone else.

[SBXVII]

On a side note all the other players talked about as far as doing well I thought they all looked good.

Robinson seemed to drop a couple of balls and allowed one to hit his pads and bounce off.

Hankerson seemed to look better the more the game went on but for some reason he had trouble with a couple of balls. One I think was thrown behind him though.

Lewis caught the ball and seemed to be hard to bring down. On one occasion he had a defender on his back and still ran for about 5 to 10 more yards. On another occasion he ran through a tackle.

Helu looked really good, but so did Royster at the end.

Fred Davis had a good night. Paulson looked good also.

Defensive pressure looked good but it could get better. Perhaps with stunts and more intricate plays they will be hard to stop.

As stated the back field seemed to struggle but maybe with some time working together they will get better.

Special Teams looked a lot better. Hopefully they improve more and more. Kick return could be better.

[MTK]

Alrighty then.

How about we move on and talk about something other than the 3rd string QB?

I really liked B. Jenkins, I think he could add a new dimension to the pass rush.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Alrighty then.

How about we move on and talk about something other than the 3rd string QB?

I really liked B. Jenkins, I think he could add a new dimension to the pass rush.

He will, Lance Lewis looked good too. Deszmon Briscoe cant catch anything.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

He will, Lance Lewis looked good too. Deszmon Briscoe cant catch anything.

Briscoe continues to amaze me with how bad his hands are.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Alrighty then.

How about we move on and talk about something other than the 3rd string QB?

I really liked B. Jenkins, I think he could add a new dimension to the pass rush.

Thanks for moving the discussion forward...

The alignment that got Kerrigan his sack could be incredibly tough to block.. Jenkins coming off the edge, Kerrigan at DE against a guard, Tapp with his hand on the ground against a guard and Orakpo off the other edge. If we can generate a consistent rush with that 4 it makes the job on the back end that much easier.

I'm admittedly in the minority but Helu is still a 'prove it' player to me. His vision and RB instincts are sub par. He's got great feet and speed but the difference between him and Morris or even Royster in understanding where the hole is, where the cutback lane is and when to wait for it is night and day. I hope some of it was rust but it was an issue in '11 also.

From the Titans side, Jake Locker=Jason Campbell. He is their version of Captain Checkdown. I think he will be what keeps them from being a decent team.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Thanks for moving the discussion forward...

The alignment that got Kerrigan his sack could be incredibly tough to block.. Jenkins coming off the edge, Kerrigan at DE against a guard, Tapp with his hand on the ground against a guard and Orakpo off the other edge. If we can generate a consistent rush with that 4 it makes the job on the back end that much easier.

I'm admittedly in the minority but Helu is still a 'prove it' player to me. His vision and RB instincts are sub par. He's got great feet and speed but the difference between him and Morris or even Royster in understanding where the hole is, where the cutback lane is and when to wait for it is night and day. I hope some of it was rust but it was an issue in '11 also.

From the Titans side, Jake Locker=Jason Campbell. He is their version of Captain Checkdown. I think he will be what keeps them from being a decent team.

Agreed on Helu. Royster is probably the better fit in the zone scheme, but Helu has that home run ability with his speed.

Locker is bad. I won't be shocked if Fitzpatrick ends up starting at some point.