Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Come on what does this guy know about football? Shanny obviously only has the best interest of the future of this franchise in mind. That is evident based on the three people left on this board who have offered up intriguing "what if" arguments to shed light on this fact.....

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Come on what does this guy know about football? Shanny obviously only has the best interest of the future of this franchise in mind. That is evident based on the three people left on this board who have offered up intriguing "what if" arguments to shed light on this fact.....

What if Shanny is under a mind control device controlled by Xenu from his space ship and Kyle is secretly his handler and that's why Tom Cruise is always at home games and what if RG3 is a spy meant to sabotage Shanny and he's been throwing games because once Shanny goes full blown lobster the experiment is complete and then Cousins comes in and takes a sample of his lobster skin and Cousins and RG3 hops onto Alfmo's back and rides off into the sunset. Washington DC has been saved from lobster man and his Xenu handler.

The end.

(Moral of the story is: these what if theories are ridiculous. yay)

[SBXVII]

I went back and watched the Shanny presser and after getting through the gazillion "hows your relationship with the ower" and "where are the leaks coming from" I noticed around the 21 min. mark MS is asked about RG3's feelings and how he's handling it and MS says "as I said we will sit down and make a decision and go from there. We'll sit down with the QB's and decided which direction we want to go in."

This last bit made me wonder if he's referring to sitting down in the off season and deciding if they want to continue with RG3 and the read option type of plays or go in a totally different direction with Cousins. I know you guys will tell me I'm reading too much into it. and perhaps he was referring to after the last game but I thought the question was about RG3 and his feelings and MS says nothing about the feelings and says something close to what I put above.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

What if Shanny is under a mind control device controlled by Xenu from his space ship and Kyle is secretly his handler and that's why Tom Cruise is always at home games and what if RG3 is a spy meant to sabotage Shanny and he's been throwing games because once Shanny goes full blown lobster the experiment is complete and then Cousins comes in and takes a sample of his lobster skin and Cousins and RG3 hops onto Alfmo's back and rides off into the sunset. Washington DC has been saved from lobster man and his Xenu handler.

The end.

(Moral of the story is: these what if theories are ridiculous. yay)

I just LOL'd at my desk. A sample of his lobster skin......classic!

[KI Skins Fan]

All of this nonsense could have easily been avoided. All Shanny had to say was that he was going with Cousins because we've been losing and he is hoping that Cousins can spark the team. There would have been no harm in Shanny admitting that RGIII has not played well; that much is obvious. So, the stated reason for sitting RGIII would be poor performance.

Shanny did not need make RGIII inactive. He could have simply resolved not to play him for the rest of the season and kept that decision to himself.

I suppose that plan was just too simple to suit the devious career machinations of all the parties involved. It's this last part that makes the Redskins franchise a joke.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

All of this nonsense could have easily been avoided. All Shanny had to say was that he was going with Cousins because we've been losing and he is hoping that Cousins can spark the team. There would have been no harm in Shanny admitting that RGIII has not played well; that much is obvious. So, the stated reason for sitting RGIII would be poor performance.

Shanny did not need make RGIII inactive. He could have simply resolved not to play him for the rest of the season and kept that decision to himself.

I suppose that plan was just too simple to suit the devious career machinations of all the parties involved. It's this last part that makes the Redskins franchise a joke.

Exactly right. The explained reasons by the coaching staff is why the Skins continue to be one of the worst franchises in the NFL

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

All of this nonsense could have easily been avoided. All Shanny had to say was that he was going with Cousins because we've been losing and he is hoping that Cousins can spark the team. There would have been no harm in Shanny admitting that RGIII has not played well; that much is obvious. So, the stated reason for sitting RGIII would be poor performance.

Shanny did not need make RGIII inactive. He could have simply resolved not to play him for the rest of the season and kept that decision to himself.

I suppose that plan was just too simple to suit the devious career machinations of all the parties involved. It's this last part that makes the Redskins franchise a joke.

I think he didn't want to further hurt his pride and ego, although de-activating him pretty much does that. The Shanahan's like Cousins, had a 1st round grade on him and probably think he's the better fit to run their offense. If Cousins plays well, he's not going anywhere and RG3 might be the one that's dangled out there as trade bait.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think he didn't want to further hurt his pride and ego, although de-activating him pretty much does that. The Shanahan's like Cousins, had a 1st round grade on him and probably think he's the better fit to run their offense. If Cousins plays well, he's not going anywhere and RG3 might be the one that's dangled out there as trade bait.

OMG. Ok, I'm thinking along those lines, but god you can't say that here. These fans who believe he's the next god will eat you alive. tisk, tisk.

As I said before, I think the only reason we had success last year was the coaches changed the offense to be more like Baylor's just for RG3 so he was not called a bust his first year. Now they want to get back to their style of offense (which quite a few fans here should be happy cause they kept saying the college read option was going to go no where). Maybe Cousins fits MS's style of offense better then RG3 does but they were hoping RG3 and all his abilities would pan out for them. < and he still might but they have to do some developing in the off season and hope he's a quick study.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

OMG. Ok, I'm thinking along those lines, but god you can't say that here. These fans who believe he's the next god will eat you alive. tisk, tisk.

As I said before, I think the only reason we had success last year was the coaches changed the offense to be more like Baylor's just for RG3 so he was not called a bust his first year. Now they want to get back to their style of offense (which quite a few fans here should be happy cause they kept saying the college read option was going to go no where). Maybe Cousins fits MS's style of offense better then RG3 does but they were hoping RG3 and all his abilities would pan out for them. < and he still might but they have to do some developing in the off season and hope he's a quick study.

Why change a system that got you to the playoffs, if it ain't broke don't fix it. That would mean Shannhan is an idiot if he arbitrarily changed the offense. Illogical, damn it Jim I'm a phaser technician not a nursing assistant.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Why change a system that got you to the playoffs, if it ain't broke don't fix it. That would mean Shannhan is an idiot if he arbitrarily changed the offense. Illogical, damn it Jim I'm a phaser technician not a nursing assistant.

I'll try to spell it out for you a little better... don't look at the situation now and wonder what the hell they were thinking... look at it from their perspective at the time...

RG3 gets drafted and they have high hopes, he shows up in June or later and essentially he has 2 1/2 months if that to prepare for the season. You know learn the plays. He shows up and either doesn't know the plays that well or is having trouble running them, ie; all the fundamentals a normal QB should already know but needs a little tweaking like footwork, back peddle, reading defenses, how to hand the ball off, etc. etc. Knowing they won't fix stupid in time they decide to incorporate not just some but a lot of the "read option" spread that RG3 already knows. Maybe they asked him for several plays he liked. The year goes by rather well except for one glitch and thats RG3's injury. Perhaps they hoped RG3 would be around the off season between year 1 and year 2 so they could work with him on all the basic fundamentals but he stayed in Florida rehabbing his knee.

Year two we are looking at an RG3 who is limited due to injury and the brace. He does not have the speed he did in year one so now it's time to tweak the offense yet again. Maybe make him more of a pocket passer and try to get the protection around him. However if he has to run he can.

I think they tweaked it to be more of what MS runs as a scheme simply to protect RG3 from running so much. So this whole second year was a huge learning curve for RG3. Yeah he did some nice things but he still has a lot to learn. and when under pressure he forgets all about fundamentals.

Now we are at the end of the season, gossip everywhere, not getting into the play offs, the field is messy, so there is no need to let RG3 get hurt taking a pounding or while running on the messy field. Cue Cousins here. Someone who is not an option QB but can run a little of it but is more of a pocket passer. Exactly what MS needs for "his" system to work.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think he didn't want to further hurt his pride and ego, although de-activating him pretty much does that. The Shanahan's like Cousins, had a 1st round grade on him and probably think he's the better fit to run their offense. If Cousins plays well, he's not going anywhere and RG3 might be the one that's dangled out there as trade bait.

Not sure if I should be excited about this or not. On one hand if they valued him that much perhaps he has some success, on the other hand I have seen the Shanahans' recent evaluation of QB talent and it is worrisome.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

All of this nonsense could have easily been avoided. All Shanny had to say was that he was going with Cousins because we've been losing and he is hoping that Cousins can spark the team. There would have been no harm in Shanny admitting that RGIII has not played well; that much is obvious. So, the stated reason for sitting RGIII would be poor performance.

Shanny did not need make RGIII inactive. He could have simply resolved not to play him for the rest of the season and kept that decision to himself.

I suppose that plan was just too simple to suit the devious career machinations of all the parties involved. It's this last part that makes the Redskins franchise a joke.

I agree with you. Sometimes I think MS is terrible at interviews and the other half I think he's trying to give so much disinformation to not give his opponent any info.

Also keep in mind this team was, supposedly and I don't know how the math works out, but still in the game for the play offs (even though most of us would say they don't look like a play off team). So I guess it was smart to continue playing RG3 up until the team was completely eliminated from the play off picture. Which is what happened last weekend. Now Cousins starts.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

All of this nonsense could have easily been avoided. All Shanny had to say was that he was going with Cousins because we've been losing and he is hoping that Cousins can spark the team. There would have been no harm in Shanny admitting that RGIII has not played well; that much is obvious. So, the stated reason for sitting RGIII would be poor performance.

Shanny did not need make RGIII inactive. He could have simply resolved not to play him for the rest of the season and kept that decision to himself.

I suppose that plan was just too simple to suit the devious career machinations of all the parties involved. It's this last part that makes the Redskins franchise a joke.

That would have made good reason 3 to 5 games back but why would he try to spark the team after we are out of the playoffs?

[MTK]

We were officially out of the playoff race after the Giants game. Should have started Cousins last week using that logic.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

We were officially out of the playoff race after the Giants game. Should have started Cousins last week using that logic.

Maybe, I thought I had heard that after the Chiefs game the local news said "now the team is completely eliminated." Could be wrong though.