Cousins to start 2015 Season

[over the mountain]

Film Breakdown: Kirk Cousins' 9 Interceptions in 2014

they have the video breakdown of every pic.

Quarter Breakdown for Cousins 9 picks:

1st Quarter 0
2nd Quarter 1
3rd Quarter 3
4th Quarter 5

I wish they told you the score bc i remember most of his picks came when we were trailing by 2 scores.
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[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Film Breakdown: Kirk Cousins' 9 Interceptions in 2014

they have the video breakdown of every pic.

Quarter Breakdown for Cousins 9 picks:

1st Quarter 0
2nd Quarter 1
3rd Quarter 3
4th Quarter 5

I wish they told you the score bc i remember most of his picks came when we were trailing by 2 scores.
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We should probably expect some growing pains, but I'm not ready to conclude that Kirk Cousins has hit his ceiling after only starting 9 games. Yes, he threw a lot of picks last year, but still threw more TDs and if he improves over time, he'll be just like a vast majority of guys who have played the position - struggles early, but better with experience. I'll play the odds and say we see a much improved version of KC as the season goes on. If not, it's back to the drawing board after the season.

[calia]

Cousins needs a chance -- and not just a handful of games -- to show whether he can be a franchise QB, and only time will tell. Here's a look at stats for some other noteworthy QBs their first season starting, and then compared to what Cousins did last season:

Payton Manning (1998): 26 TD, 28 INT, 3739 YRD
Drew Brees (2002): 17 TD, 16 INT, 3284 YRD
Andrew Luck (2012): 23 TD, 18 INT, 4374 YRD
Tom Brady (2001): 18 TD, 12 INT, 2843 YRD

Kirk Cousins (2014, 6 starts*): 10 TD, 9 INT, 1710 YRD
* given how early he entered the JAX game, I have assumed that a start
Kirk Cousins (if adjusted same #s for 16 games): 26.7 TD, 24 INT, 4560 YRD

More TDs than any of the above QBs, although also more INTs than everyone except Payton Manning. And more yards than everyone too.

To be clear, I am not saying Kirk will be on par with any of these folks -- who the heck knows if that is possible? Again, only time will tell. But one cannot look at the numbers and conclude he's just a stop gap to a real franchise QB either. Let's not forget, Brady and Luck (at least) had better starting casts around them than Cousins had here last year too.

Let's give the guy a chance -- even with the inevitable growing pains. What do we have to lose at this point?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by calia

Cousins needs a chance -- and not just a handful of games -- to show whether he can be a franchise QB, and only time will tell.....
Let's give the guy a chance -- even with the inevitable growing pains. What do we have to lose at this point?

Whether Kirk 'needs' a chance is up for debate.

And just for the sake of accuracy this upcoming chance is Kirk's 3rd. The 1st was with Mike Shanahan in 2013. The 2nd was last year when Griffin was hurt.

[calia]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Whether Kirk 'needs' a chance is up for debate.

And just for the sake of accuracy this upcoming chance is Kirk's 3rd. The 1st was with Mike Shanahan in 2013. The 2nd was last year when Griffin was hurt.

He had very little playing time in his first three years, as I am sure you'd agree. I also didn't count the initial seasons of Brees or Brady in the statistics above for the same reason.

With all due respect, for the sake of accuracy, 2012 was Cousin's 1st year, not 2013. I don't think you can count the 2013 season as a "chance" any more than 2012, since Shanahan's decision was purportedly done to protect Griffin in a lost season rather than seeing what he had in Kirk.

Again I focused on last season as the first in which there was an extended look (even though that only amounted to about 1/3 of the season).

And if you don't think Kirk needs a chance this season, what exactly do you have in mind for the QB position?

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Whether Kirk 'needs' a chance is up for debate.

And just for the sake of accuracy this upcoming chance is Kirk's 3rd. The 1st was with Mike Shanahan in 2013. The 2nd was last year when Griffin was hurt.

I don't think any reasonable person would describe 9 total starts as being a real chance.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by calia

Cousins needs a chance -- and not just a handful of games -- to show whether he can be a franchise QB, and only time will tell. Here's a look at stats for some other noteworthy QBs their first season starting, and then compared to what Cousins did last season:

Payton Manning (1998): 26 TD, 28 INT, 3739 YRD
Drew Brees (2002): 17 TD, 16 INT, 3284 YRD
Andrew Luck (2012): 23 TD, 18 INT, 4374 YRD
Tom Brady (2001): 18 TD, 12 INT, 2843 YRD

Kirk Cousins (2014, 6 starts*): 10 TD, 9 INT, 1710 YRD
* given how early he entered the JAX game, I have assumed that a start
Kirk Cousins (if adjusted same #s for 16 games): 26.7 TD, 24 INT, 4560 YRD

More TDs than any of the above QBs, although also more INTs than everyone except Payton Manning. And more yards than everyone too.

To be clear, I am not saying Kirk will be on par with any of these folks -- who the heck knows if that is possible? Again, only time will tell. But one cannot look at the numbers and conclude he's just a stop gap to a real franchise QB either. Let's not forget, Brady and Luck (at least) had better starting casts around them than Cousins had here last year too.

Let's give the guy a chance -- even with the inevitable growing pains. What do we have to lose at this point?

And Brees followed up 17TDs and 16INTs with 11TDs and 15INTs the next season. THEN, the the year after that he had 27TDs and only 7INTs. By that time, the Chargers had already decided to move on and had drafted Philip Rivers. Cousins may never solve the turnover/confidence problem, but it's way too early to close the book on him. After a full season this year, we should know exactly what we have in him and whether or not it's back to the drawing board as far as the QB position goes.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Film Breakdown: Kirk Cousins' 9 Interceptions in 2014

they have the video breakdown of every pic.

Quarter Breakdown for Cousins 9 picks:

1st Quarter 0
2nd Quarter 1
3rd Quarter 3
4th Quarter 5

I wish they told you the score bc i remember most of his picks came when we were trailing by 2 scores.
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Great site. Good breakdown is his 10TDs as well:

Film Breakdown: Kirk Cousins' 10 Touchdowns in 2014

[KI Skins Fan]

There's not enough bandwidth to show all of Brett Farve's interceptions and he turned out fine.

[30gut]

I don't know why some of you have a hard time admitting that Kirk did have previous opportunities?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I don't know why some of you have a hard time admitting that Kirk did have previous opportunities?

He did. However this is his first real opportunity. Hopefully he's going to get 16 games. I expect some ups and downs the first part of the season, with him coming on the second half.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

He did. However this is his first real opportunity. Hopefully he's going to get 16 games. I expect some ups and downs the first part of the season, with him coming on the second half.

I hope he gets the full 16 game also because it would mean that he's playing well and the team is winning games.

But if he has ups and downs in the first part of the season it will be hard to have Colt on the bench and not play him. So I guess it depends on how bad those hypothetical ups and downs are.

[That Guy]

why do you get so defensive when someone has a differing opinion? every thread doesn't have to devolve into you telling people that they aren't responding to what you said in the post that they just replied to...

[30gut]

Originally Posted by That Guy

why do you get so defensive when someone has a differing opinion? every thread doesn't have to devolve into you telling people that they aren't responding to what you said in the post that they just replied to...

Maybe I just need to choose who I respond to more carefully then?
You know? Steer clear of those people prone to doing the above?

[Schneed10]

Whether or not Cousins has gotten a chance before is irrelevant. He's getting another chance now, how many chances he got before makes no difference. The question is whether this leap the coaches say he's made this year translates to the field.