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Old 03-25-2016, 06:01 PM   #1
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Being open (too open for my taste) doesn't make him a bad guy. It does make him an easy mark for the media though. And local media made sport of Robert because of his popularity.

I don't think his comments absolve himself of blame. But if people want to find something to nit pick, it easy when a person doesn't give canned answers.

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He had two weeks to craft his message. He was a communications/marketing major. He knows how to brand himself. And in all his comments I could find, there was no trace of the acknowledgement of self limitations/failings. Simply self aggrandizement, and commitment to future (which when made without reflections are fairly useless). Now, his comments about the team and future might give Browns fans hope, except he made the same pronouncements here, but didn't follow up - because he doesn't seem to acknowledge where his weaknesses are. An example from his statement:
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I’m excited about that, and when it comes to what I need to work on, I’m excited to have another opportunity to grow … that’s big, and I just need to go out and prove it.
he gives himself a perfect in right here to make a self reflective statement: and when it comes to what I need to work on, like my drop backs or like pocket presence, I'm excited...

But he doesn't do that, he deflects any thought of his faults and makes it sound like he didn't have an opportunity to grow, this from a guy who was the named starter for the first 3 + years of his career.
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Old 03-25-2016, 06:19 PM   #2
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He had two weeks to craft his message. He was a communications/marketing major. He knows how to brand himself. And in all his comments I could find, there was no trace of the acknowledgement of self limitations/failings. Simply self aggrandizement, and commitment to future (which when made without reflections are fairly useless). Now, his comments about the team and future might give Browns fans hope, except he made the same pronouncements here, but didn't follow up - because he doesn't seem to acknowledge where his weaknesses are. An example from his statement:

he gives himself a perfect in right here to make a self reflective statement: and when it comes to what I need to work on, like my drop backs or like pocket presence, I'm excited...

But he doesn't do that, he deflects any thought of his faults...
Seems to me like you're doing an awful lot of reading into his comments. He was giving an introductory presser. I'm not going to hold it against the kid that he wasn't self reflectively critical in an introductory press conference. He's not there to render a mea culpa.

I'm sure there is fodder there for those willing to parse through Brock Os's intro presser.
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Old 03-27-2016, 11:27 PM   #3
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He had two weeks to craft his message. He was a communications/marketing major. He knows how to brand himself. And in all his comments I could find, there was no trace of the acknowledgement of self limitations/failings. Simply self aggrandizement, and commitment to future (which when made without reflections are fairly useless). Now, his comments about the team and future might give Browns fans hope, except he made the same pronouncements here, but didn't follow up - because he doesn't seem to acknowledge where his weaknesses are. An example from his statement:



he gives himself a perfect in right here to make a self reflective statement: and when it comes to what I need to work on, like my drop backs or like pocket presence, I'm excited...



But he doesn't do that, he deflects any thought of his faults and makes it sound like he didn't have an opportunity to grow, this from a guy who was the named starter for the first 3 + years of his career.

He can deflect fault from himself all he wants at the microphone but once he steps on the field it will become painfully evident to Browns fans why he is no longer a Redskin.
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Old 03-25-2016, 02:53 PM   #4
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It's pretty hard to make 10 million in one year, I dunno how he managed to make it through.
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Old 03-25-2016, 06:09 PM   #5
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I'm actually thankful about the local media coverage of Griffin. It helped me to stop listening, stop following. I definitely noticed a link between media comments and fan slant/discussion on message boards. Too often I heard speculation and opinion passed off as fact and often time heard "reports" that were later refuted on the record by team officials yet the perception of the erroneous 'report' remain.

I was especially turned off by the coverage of Mike Shanahan and the revisionist history applied to his tenure. Another key aspect that turned me off is the insistence that Griffin changed the offense in 2013 and didn't do read option, a fact that they conveniently leave out of their narrative is the fact that Griffin did read option in 2013, in fact he did it a lot.

Anyhow...I slipped up and listened the other day and heard Thom Loverro? getting in his last licks, and having a laugh the whole time.
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I'm actually thankful about the local media coverage of Griffin. It helped me to stop listening, stop following. I definitely noticed a link between media comments and fan slant/discussion on message boards. Too often I heard speculation and opinion passed off as fact and often time heard "reports" that were later refuted on the record by team officials yet the perception of the erroneous 'report' remain.

I was especially turned off by the coverage of Mike Shanahan and the revisionist history applied to his tenure. Another key aspect that turned me off is the insistence that Griffin changed the offense in 2013 and didn't do read option, a fact that they conveniently leave out of their narrative is the fact that Griffin did read option in 2013, in fact he did it a lot.

Anyhow...I slipped up and listened the other day and heard Thom Loverro? getting in his last licks, and having a laugh the whole time.
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Maybe the only time you and I have agreed!
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I'm so glad RGIII is gone so we can finally stop talking about him.
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I'm so glad RGIII is gone so we can finally stop talking about him.
Yes. Now we can focus on the real QB tragedy ... that Patrick Ramsey was given a bum rap.

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Yes. Now we can focus on the real QB tragedy ... that Patrick Ramsey was given a bum rap.

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9 year career for a below average QB. i'd be okay with that.

RG3 is pulling the same passive aggressive "i'm a victim" crap. he's had 4 years to learn how to not put his foot in his mouth, yet he can't help himself. please stop apologizing for him. if he doesn't know better by now, it's either because he's an idiot or because he just can't help it.

my opinion isn't from the media it's from the things his said. primary source, so i'm not sure how the media can slant what's coming directly out of his mouth.
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RG3 is pulling the same passive aggressive "i'm a victim" crap. he's had 4 years to learn how to not put his foot in his mouth, yet he can't help himself. please stop apologizing for him.
I've said before that Griffin talks to openly with the media for my taste. If you view them as passive aggressive, that's your choice, there's always more then 1 view and I'm sure there are people that don't agree with your take. But even if his statements are passive aggressive it doesn't make him a bad guy nor warrant the level of vitriol he receives.
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Old 03-26-2016, 11:06 AM   #14
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I'm not really surprised by what he said, but I am a little surprised that he never learned to have a filter with the media. Maybe he's just decided to be honest with them for better or worse. If he continues being open and honest with them I wouldn't be surprised if Hue gets tired of his act though. As for me, I am just happy he's not our problem anymore.
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... and Josh Campbell never got the blocking he needed to show he excel.

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