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Old 12-30-2019, 11:43 PM   #1
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Chase Young is a no brainier. You take him and run, unless you get a RG 3 type deal. You do not over complicate it, you turn the card in and take the best player.
Redskin "no brainers" picks in the top 5

Desmond Howard
Heath Schuler
Westbrook
LeVar Arrington
RG lll

And a few that were good.

Sean Taylor
Samuels

Trent

Scherif ? drafted as a tackle

So, the "no brainer" picks were less than 50% accurate
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Old 12-30-2019, 11:19 PM   #2
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Young is a good player, however, you need to get a great player at #2. Yes, I have watched videos with a member of the coaching staff. We could not find any film on Young. Where are all the "experts" who said the D-line would be great with Allen, Payne, Kerrigan, and Matt I?

One player is not going to turn everything around....no second-round pick too, and plenty of holes to fill.
It did for SF with Bosa, we are built almost the same. Bosa was the missing link, young is our missing link that Kerrigan can’t provide on a consistent basis. Young is explosive and a big time disruptor, we haven’t this kind of pass rush since Manley and Mann.
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Old 12-31-2019, 11:04 PM   #3
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Young is not Bosa, Young disappeared the last two games. Trade the #2 for picks.


No way he has been more dominant than Bosa waa at OSU. He gets double teamed to death. Also remember that when you know your about to cash it in you might just play safer. He will be better than Bosa. Already is on the collegiate level.
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Old 12-31-2019, 01:00 AM   #4
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7/9 made it to at least one probowl, 1 x ROY, and 1 x Super bowl MVP.
Scherff was a tackle drafted to play Guard.

What’s the percentage of pro bowlers drafted after the second rounds?

This team needs more blue chip talent not more Troy Apkes or Wes Martins.
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7/9 made it to at least one probowl, 1 x ROY, and 1 x Super bowl MVP.
Scherff was a tackle drafted to play Guard.

What’s the percentage of pro bowlers drafted after the second rounds?

This team needs more blue chip talent not more Troy Apkes or Wes Martins.
What’s wrong with Wes Martin? He’s solid and getting better.
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Old 12-31-2019, 02:02 AM   #6
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7/9 made it to at least one probowl, 1 x ROY, and 1 x Super bowl MVP.
Scherff was a tackle drafted to play Guard.

What’s the percentage of pro bowlers drafted after the second rounds?

This team needs more blue chip talent not more Troy Apkes or Wes Martins.
Actually Scherff was a tackle drafted to play tackle. They tried for several weeks to make him a tackle. Guards are very rarely top 5 picks.

We are talking about top 5 picks in the draft, not mid-round picks.There are plenty of pro-bowl players that were not top 5 picks in the first round. When you get a year or two good seasons from a top 5 pick he is a bust.
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Lavar was pretty good

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Yeah. Three pro bowls in his five years with us. Got injured and had issues with Greg Williams if I remember correctly....just another really good player who had the misfortune of playing for the Washington Trainwrecks
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Yeah. Three pro bowls in his five years with us. Got injured and had issues with Greg Williams if I remember correctly....just another really good player who had the misfortune of playing for the Washington Trainwrecks
That's kind of a false narrative. He was always regarded as a freelancer, a guy who made plays but was never willing to completely buy in and play by the system. Gregg Williams couldn't stand him for that reason, G.Will only wants guys who are going to buy in. Then Lavar kept having problems with knee injuries, and eventually the relationship soured to the point Lavar was willing to pay the Redskins 4 million to get out of his contract. Then he signed with the Giants to get revenge on the Redskins twice a year and his career ended after he broke his leg in a bike accident.
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I'm not by any means a talent evaluator, so I am going to trust Rivera/Del Rio and the near unanimous punditry when it comes to evaluating Chase Young but I have a question for all the Chase Young lovers on here.

In the following highlight clip, at the 4:28 to 4:36 mark, he avoids blocking during a fumble return and the guy he doesn't block is part of the tackle. How does that fit with the aggression you would expect from him in the same instance on our team?

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I'm not by any means a talent evaluator, so I am going to trust Rivera/Del Rio and the near unanimous punditry when it comes to evaluating Chase Young but I have a question for all the Chase Young lovers on here.

In the following highlight clip, at the 4:28 to 4:36 mark, he avoids blocking during a fumble return and the guy he doesn't block is part of the tackle. How does that fit with the aggression you would expect from him in the same instance on our team?

That is pretty embarrassing but I'm still taking him. You can coach him up to block on fumble returns, you can't coach athletic ability, which he has in spades.

The only questions I have are about his attitude and outlook. Is he gonna be one of those guys who skates by on athletic ability and never lives up to their full potential? Or will he be a talented headcase because his shit doesn't stink? Only way I'm not taking him is if he won't buy into the system because he thinks his way is better.
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I admittedly am just taking the talking heads word for it that Chase Young will be "better than both Bosas". I dont watch a lot of college ball and when I did to specifically watch Young, he wasnt impactful. I watched like 2 games so small sample size.

BUT .. his speed and get off is undeniably fast. I though maybe he might be to small to play end all 3 downs and hold the edge but then hes listed like 6'5" 260 lbs. Thats plenty big enough to play the end in the NFL imo.

Bowl game he was a half second or finger tip away from getting to the QB so many times.

His first step may be the quickest in the NFL once he gets there. I take him at 2 and dont look back.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ring-nfl-draft

Chase Young declares for the draft.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ring-nfl-draft

Chase Young declares for the draft.
He’s ours, don’t fuck it up and trade down.
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He’s ours, don’t fuck it up and trade down.
I would trade down if the Bengals passed on Joe Burrow and we got rid of the #2 for a kings ransom. I like Chase Young but one player isn't going to make or break the defense.
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