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Old 01-04-2006, 12:07 PM   #1
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I think what happened is a caller mentioned his name as a possibility for a GM spot on their team (came in part way through the call) and they were cracking on him when that was suggested.
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Old 01-04-2006, 01:27 PM   #2
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VC is the second most important person to the redskins behind the coaching staff. As talent evaluator his job is vital, and he's really bad at it. He needs to be shown the door.
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Old 01-04-2006, 01:47 PM   #3
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VC is the second most important person to the redskins behind the coaching staff. As talent evaluator his job is vital, and he's really bad at it. He needs to be shown the door.
I think whether you show him the door or not, it won't make a bit of difference. All of the Skins' acquisitions since Gibbs came back (with the exception of Mike Barrow) have worked out marvelously. If Vinny's scouting reports are helping Gibbs make the right calls, I don't think you get rid of Vinny, because so far with the people we have, it is working.

You could probably just get some other monkey to come in and do the same thing Vinny is doing. He's not a very important person to the Redskins franchise, he provides the scouting reports, which lots of guys could do just fine. Gibbs and Williams are making the decisions, and they're doing fine with the info Vinny is feeding them. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Old 01-04-2006, 01:40 PM   #4
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Vinny is terrible. He's a yes man that needs to go. Kissing Danny's arse should not be your main job qualifications.
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Old 01-04-2006, 01:48 PM   #5
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i agree that vc is a non issue.so what if he likes to lick a billionaires ass every once in a while.his job is to keep the real football people happy
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Old 01-05-2006, 08:59 AM   #6
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Personally I don't think Vinny has done that bad a job on talent evaluation and preparing in information for the coaches to digest . In the one year he was fired and Marty took over we all remember the excellent personel decisions that were made then, who can forget the perenial pro bowler Kevin Locket or indead the waste of space players he ditched like the last Dlineman to get over 10 sacks in a year (Marco Coleman), or oneof the best pass catching FBs in the game (Larry Centers) but he did better in the draft though picking up Rod Gardner, Fred Smoot, Sage Rosenfals, Mario Monds and Danerian Macants, none of which are with the team and I think only Sage is actually on an active roster .

Just for comparison though we are often told how much our drafts suck and how bad we are (in general) by our own fans here is something taken from a Philly paper

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/13537336.htm
Struggles with finding players in the draft
Other than McNabb, the Eagles have little to show for the 1999, 2000 and 2001 drafts. And 2003 isn't looking great, either.Corey Simon (first round, 2000) is gone. So are, among others, Freddie Mitchell (first round, 2001), Barry Gardner (second round, '99), John Welbourn (fourth round, '99), Bobbie Williams (second round, 2000), Quinton Caver (second round, 2001), and Derrick Burgess (third round, 2001).
In fact, from those 1999-2001 drafts, the Eagles currently have McNabb, injured wideout Todd Pinkston (second round, 2000) and injured running back Correll Buckhalter (fourth round, 2001). In a league where success flows from good drafting, the picks from those years should be forming the team's foundation right now, its nexus of late-20s players in their primes. And all that remains from the 2003 draft are injured defensive end Jerome McDougle (first round), tight end L.J. Smith (second round) and wideout Billy McMullen (third round).
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Old 01-05-2006, 09:02 AM   #7
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Personally I don't think Vinny has done that bad a job on talent evaluation and preparing in information for the coaches to digest . In the one year he was fired and Marty took over we all remember the excellent personel decisions that were made then, who can forget the perenial pro bowler Kevin Locket or indead the waste of space players he ditched like the last Dlineman to get over 10 sacks in a year (Marco Coleman), or oneof the best pass catching FBs in the game (Larry Centers) but he did better in the draft though picking up Rod Gardner, Fred Smoot, Sage Rosenfals, Mario Monds and Danerian Macants, none of which are with the team and I think only Sage is actually on an active roster.
I think you're giving way too much credit to Vinny for any of our "misses" over the last few years.

Yes he's been part of the process but when Marty took over he canned Vinny and Marty alone was responsible for personnel. So if you don't like that year's crop of talent there's only Marty to blame.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:39 PM   #8
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That was kind of the point I was making that Vinny gets way too much blame but actually he isn't doing to baad of a job . Hacket (sp?) at the Eagles is hailed as a guru but I am betting the hitting averages of the two personel men are not totally disimilar .
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Loosen up, Sandy Baby!
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