Those of you looking for some to blame.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by H4172teh5k1n5

I have been reading some posts on this and other forums since our loss today and am appalled by the ideas expressed. I can't believe what I'm reading. Coach Gibbs should "give up his clipboard". Portis was a bad trade. We lost, get over it. We got farther than a lot of us thought we would this year. Seriously, did you really think that we would be Super Bowl contenders in the first 2 years? Really? Next year we will have our shot (or should). I said that from the day I heard Gibbs was coming back. We have improved a little every year and will be back to full strength next year after a season of crippling injuries. When we lost Patten, we took a big hit. After he left, we had no #2 WR (other than Cooley). And yet Gibbs still took us to the playoffs. Brunell showed us that he still had life in him after some of us booed him off the field last year. I think that he may be done after this season (he's not getting any younger) and the jury is still out on Cambel, but Gibbs and Williams will find a way to get us there. We don't have the biggest superstars or the best athletes, (and one we do have we might lose to jail). Look at the positive. We made it to the playoffs. That's nothing to sneeze at considering our last decade (and then some) of football. the fact that some of you are talking trash about the players and the coaching staff after the injuries we suffered this year pisses me off. I'm ashamed to call you fellow "fans" (if that's what you call yourselves). I would hate to think that some members on this board are fair-weather. Talking about how much you like this player or this coach one week and then the next talking like they ruined our whole season. We got beat. Not necessarily by a better team, but by a team who had a better game than us. Once we find our #2 receiver (be that Patten or someone else) and a consistent QB, we will be the team to beat in the NFC. Until then I will continue to cheer as loud as I can for my team, good, bad, or ugly.

Beautifully done!
For those of you that cannot see the wisdom and righteousness of this post, I will pray for you! I will pray for you every day! I will pray that you................... USELESS, IGNORANT, MF's to find someplace else to spread your mindless hate and discontent, because I personally have NO use for you HERE!!!!!!!!! And don't forget to smell the roses..............

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

What I love about this site is that most posters are capable of intelligently debating things. Unlike some other unnamed websites, we are not controlled by anyone and we do not simply tag Snyder's line. We love the Redskins and are always willing to stick by them, but we don't debate like immature 5 year olds who name call. We differentiate ourselves from Philly fans.

Unfortunately, I have been absolutely blasted by people for saying that our offense has had problems lately. I have also said numerous times what a great season this was etc. I have had to repeatedly justify my opinions about our offense to those who are either totally unfamiliar with my own take on the team (which is overwhelmingly positive) or who are simply choosing to ignore my other posts.

Frankly, I'm tired of justifying my opinions. If you disagree with my posts, that is fine. I encourage healthy debate. But, please don't sully this site's, or your own, reputation by resorting to name-calling.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Contrary to what the original post intimated, I don't think anyone has been calling for Gibbs' head. I think it is unanimous that he did a fantastic job this season. So, let's not overstate things.

Also, since people have pegged me as the "pessimist," I suggest you read some of my posts from earlier in the season when we weren't winning.

I note how people were overreacting to Loss
http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=9275

I defended Gibbs playcalling after the loss to the Chargers
http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread...5&page=3&pp=10

I told people not to give up on the team
http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=9273

I defended Gibbs W-L record
http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=9329

I defended the team, raising the strength of schedule
http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=9425

Before I get labelled as purely, an attention-seeking MF'er, please do your homework.

[Funbunchfan]

It's my wife's fault she washed my jersey and moved my shrine which wasn't washed or moved since the streak began. My appologies to all of you. She caught a beating for it though.( just kidding about beating)

[Prop13]

"When we lost Patten, we took a big hit."

I'm not so sure Patten was the answer either. Patten may be a legitimate slot. We need another receiver, what Moss did by himself is all the more impressive considering that he did it by himself. We got by without a legitimate threat on one end of the defensive line too. We got by without much depth on the offensive line.

...but we didn't just get by--we got to the playoffs. ...and that's largely because of coaching. Any Redskin Fan that doesn't see the incredible job Gibbs did this year just isn't lookin'. The difference is character, and Gibbs has it comin' out his ears. Look at the teams who made legitimate runs this year--all character teams, all with character coaches. As of a couple of days ago, there were ten teams lookin' for coaches--all ten of those teams will start next season two years behind us, at best. ...and if they're not character guys, they're not legitimate contenders. Gibbs should hang up his clipboard? ...That's nuts!

Home field advantage means so much in the playoffs. If a couple of plays had gone the other way this season, we'd have played yesterday's game at home. Those plays will go our way next season. Over sixteen games, coaching is the difference. ...Joe Gibbs is the difference between how far we got without him, and what we did this year. ...and we've got Williams back for next year too!

I think the expectations of anyone who thought we'd go farther this year were unrealistic. Playoff losses hurt much worse when you think you're only gonna get a shot once every ten years, but I remember when any year we didn't make the playoffs was considered a failure. ...I look at where the team is now, and I think those days are right around the corner again.

I remember, when I was a wee fan, when we really were hopeless losers. Being a 'skins fan back then meant cryin' tough, and stickin' with the bandwagon even when the parade was over. That ethic was exemplified by people like Sonny Jurgensen. I always figured if I had a son, I'd name him Sonny Jurgensen Shultz.

....but Joe Gibbs Shultz kinda has a nice ring to it too! We don't have to cry tough. We don't have to cry at all, 'cause I don't think this parade's over yet. I think it's just gettin' warmed up.

[BigSKINBauer]

I don't think anyone here has blamed Gibbs. Yeah many people blame Brunell. I am sure the worst thing I heard was Gibbs to get Mike Martz and it seemed everyone at the other site agreed. I don't think that we should say that everything is hunky dorry though because we did lose. That doesn't mean we underachieved but the same team next year is not gonna lead us to the Super Bowl.

I do not want TJ here any more - even though i still think he has potential lol we always have. I do not think Patten is the answer at WR. I think our team was MUCH MUCH MUCH better with Patten as he was a real distraction but our passing offense sucks people. IT really does. Look at the numbers it sucks. We only got 91% of the yards the opposing defense ususually gave up. THat means on average we gave the oppossing defenses good days through the air. OUr passing offense is flawed. We need another WR.

[ST21]

Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

I don't think anyone here has blamed Gibbs. Yeah many people blame Brunell. I am sure the worst thing I heard was Gibbs to get Mike Martz and it seemed everyone at the other site agreed. I don't think that we should say that everything is hunky dorry though because we did lose. That doesn't mean we underachieved but the same team next year is not gonna lead us to the Super Bowl.

I do not want TJ here any more - even though i still think he has potential lol we always have. I do not think Patten is the answer at WR. I think our team was MUCH MUCH MUCH better with Patten as he was a real distraction but our passing offense sucks people. IT really does. Look at the numbers it sucks. We only got 91% of the yards the opposing defense ususually gave up. THat means on average we gave the oppossing defenses good days through the air. OUr passing offense is flawed. We need another WR.

DEATH TO TAYLOR JACOBS.....

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

What I love about this site is that most posters are capable of intelligently debating things. Unlike some other unnamed websites, we are not controlled by anyone and we do not simply tag Snyder's line. We love the Redskins and are always willing to stick by them, but we don't debate like immature 5 year olds who name call. We differentiate ourselves from Philly fans.

Unfortunately, I have been absolutely blasted by people for saying that our offense has had problems lately. I have also said numerous times what a great season this was etc. I have had to repeatedly justify my opinions about our offense to those who are either totally unfamiliar with my own take on the team (which is overwhelmingly positive) or who are simply choosing to ignore my other posts.

Frankly, I'm tired of justifying my opinions. If you disagree with my posts, that is fine. I encourage healthy debate. But, please don't sully this site's, or your own, reputation by resorting to name-calling.

I think you typed the truth and you were real and I agree with everything you said.... And if people are going to be childish enough to attack you for you're views then thats not really you're problem.....

[bertoskins]

Amen, also in Gibbs we trust

limagine taking a marginal talented team in a playoffs with pure guts and determination
lets see if we improve our weaknesses especially in of offensive side and CB

go skins all the way

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by Prop13

"When we lost Patten, we took a big hit."

I'm not so sure Patten was the answer either. Patten may be a legitimate slot. We need another receiver, what Moss did by himself is all the more impressive considering that he did it by himself. We got by without a legitimate threat on one end of the defensive line too. We got by without much depth on the offensive line.

...but we didn't just get by--we got to the playoffs. ...and that's largely because of coaching. Any Redskin Fan that doesn't see the incredible job Gibbs did this year just isn't lookin'. The difference is character, and Gibbs has it comin' out his ears. Look at the teams who made legitimate runs this year--all character teams, all with character coaches. As of a couple of days ago, there were ten teams lookin' for coaches--all ten of those teams will start next season two years behind us, at best. ...and if they're not character guys, they're not legitimate contenders. Gibbs should hang up his clipboard? ...That's nuts!

Home field advantage means so much in the playoffs. If a couple of plays had gone the other way this season, we'd have played yesterday's game at home. Those plays will go our way next season. Over sixteen games, coaching is the difference. ...Joe Gibbs is the difference between how far we got without him, and what we did this year. ...and we've got Williams back for next year too!

I think the expectations of anyone who thought we'd go farther this year were unrealistic. Playoff losses hurt much worse when you think you're only gonna get a shot once every ten years, but I remember when any year we didn't make the playoffs was considered a failure. ...I look at where the team is now, and I think those days are right around the corner again.

I remember, when I was a wee fan, when we really were hopeless losers. Being a 'skins fan back then meant cryin' tough, and stickin' with the bandwagon even when the parade was over. That ethic was exemplified by people like Sonny Jurgensen. I always figured if I had a son, I'd name him Sonny Jurgensen Shultz.

....but Joe Gibbs Shultz kinda has a nice ring to it too! We don't have to cry tough. We don't have to cry at all, 'cause I don't think this parade's over yet. I think it's just gettin' warmed up.

Great post! welcome!

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

I think you typed the truth and you were real and I agree with everything you said.... And if people are ging to be childish enough to attack you for you're views then thats not really you're problem.....

Thanks. Now let's just move on, celebrate and discuss the season, and talk about the offseason.

[hooskins]

I agree with Ramseyfan, people are just saying their opinion, its no big deal. We are all thankful for how far we have gotten, and no one is hating. That being said, it is no big deal if someone says something negative about the team, most of you guys are being very uptight. Most of the people on this forum love the Redskins, and that is why we are so passionate. We are trying to think of ways to improve. Only reason I am upset with the offense is because I love the Skins, and I realize everyone is upset that people are bashing the SKins, I am not bashing them, I am just another very passionate fan like the rest of you guys.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Hooskins, love that signature.

[H4172teh5k1n5]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

What I love about this site is that most posters are capable of intelligently debating things. Unlike some other unnamed websites, we are not controlled by anyone and we do not simply tag Snyder's line. We love the Redskins and are always willing to stick by them, but we don't debate like immature 5 year olds who name call. We differentiate ourselves from Philly fans.

Unfortunately, I have been absolutely blasted by people for saying that our offense has had problems lately. I have also said numerous times what a great season this was etc. I have had to repeatedly justify my opinions about our offense to those who are either totally unfamiliar with my own take on the team (which is overwhelmingly positive) or who are simply choosing to ignore my other posts.

Frankly, I'm tired of justifying my opinions. If you disagree with my posts, that is fine. I encourage healthy debate. But, please don't sully this site's, or your own, reputation by resorting to name-calling.

I agree, Our offence has had problems lately, and I don't know too many people who would argue that. And I didn't direct his post at any one person, or even just at the posters of this site (which I might add, I just joined, and I like this more than any other 'Skins borad I've been to.) Because I'm new I haven't had as much time as I would have liked to read older posts. My apoligies if anyone felt that I was singling them out.

Hail to the Redskins.

[H4172teh5k1n5]

Originally Posted by Master4Caster

H4172teh5k1n5, I don't know how to pronounce your name :cheeky-sm...........

H4172teh5k1n5 = Hail2theSkins or Hail to the Redskins. You have to look closely to see it.