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Old 03-17-2006, 06:28 AM   #1
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Re: Redskins Uninterested in Free Agent Kickers and Punters

hopefully we bring in some undrafted kickers and punters in during training camp to compete with j. hall and frost for the starting job. frost consistently kicked 30 yarders in key moments in the game, and i'm definitely not sure that his kickoffs will even reach the 20 yard line.
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Old 03-17-2006, 08:12 AM   #2
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tyler jones is hall's competition, he was with chicago, but got cut in preseason. now he's in NFLE as a skin. He's a nobody.
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Old 03-17-2006, 08:19 AM   #3
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Re: Redskins Uninterested in Free Agent Kickers and Punters

Frost did show some improvement late in the season, perhaps enough to show some promise for this staff??

I think we'll wait to see what hits the wire as we get closer to the season.
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Re: Redskins Uninterested in Free Agent Kickers and Punters

did Tupa retire?
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Old 03-17-2006, 08:35 AM   #5
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theyre actually thinking that frost can kick further than hall.
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Re: Redskins Uninterested in Free Agent Kickers and Punters

I actually don't know what to make of this situation. I like John Hall but it seems to me if you're going to have him around you need a contingency plan in case he gets hurt. Maybe the team has something in mind for that, it's hard to know.

I'm not sure why we don't add Tom Rouen at P though. Frost did improve throughout the course of the year last year, and he's got big-leg potential. But it seems like we could afford to add a better punter. Whatever though, I have no idea how to tell if Frost is going to be any good. Just have to wait and see.
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Old 03-17-2006, 09:20 AM   #7
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Re: Redskins Uninterested in Free Agent Kickers and Punters

Frost litterally cost us a game in Tampa, and almost did the same a few more times. I dont care if he is our punter and Hall is our kicker, but people should at least be brought in to compete for the job.
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Old 03-17-2006, 09:31 AM   #8
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Re: Redskins Uninterested in Free Agent Kickers and Punters

I think its a mistake not to at least look into replacements. Im not talking a big money signing like Vinateri or anything, but lets bring back Nick Novack and a young punter or two. Neither Hall nor Frost was good enough last season to have the job handed to them -- a little competition never hurt!
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Old 03-17-2006, 10:21 AM   #9
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Re: Redskins Uninterested in Free Agent Kickers and Punters

Nick Novack had some big pressure kick last season. Who was better Hall or Novack? As for Frost someone tell me with facts why he was so bad? I know Halls kick-offs were very short and not much hang time right? Any facts here as well? Like in dragnet "'Just the facts Sr."
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What happened to Tupa? Last year he just all of a sudden went on injured reserve and then this year we cut him real quick. Did he have much cap savings and did he retire? Halls only problem is injuries not his abilities. I was reading back several months ago that he work out all the time and they where going to look at how he was working out. The thought was is he may have been doing more harm than good to his leg by how he was working out. Maybe they found something he was doing and changed his work outs and now feel comfortable with him
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What happened to Tupa? Last year he just all of a sudden went on injured reserve and then this year we cut him real quick. Did he have much cap savings and did he retire? Halls only problem is injuries not his abilities. I was reading back several months ago that he work out all the time and they where going to look at how he was working out. The thought was is he may have been doing more harm than good to his leg by how he was working out. Maybe they found something he was doing and changed his work outs and now feel comfortable with him
Gibbs said something about Halls workouts and that he has been working out maybe to much or something to that effected. That he[Hall] would need to work with team trainers this off season. Question here is can hs kick-offs get better....very bad last year.
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hall was good until he got injured, and re-injured.

tupa had back spasms last offseason and because he's over 40, they don't want to risk it happening again.

frost sucks cause he's inconsistant. sometimes its high and short, sometimes its sorta downfield with not that great air time, sometimes (too often) he muffs it and it flies out sideways. he's just not very good.

whoever wants novak to come back should stop right there. he sucks. he has low range and he kicks low. he had 3 blocked kicks in under a year when most kickers have 1 or none in a year. he's strictly a backup kicker.
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hall was good until he got injured, and re-injured.

tupa had back spasms last offseason and because he's over 40, they don't want to risk it happening again.

frost sucks cause he's inconsistant. sometimes its high and short, sometimes its sorta downfield with not that great air time, sometimes (too often) he muffs it and it flies out sideways. he's just not very good.

whoever wants novak to come back should stop right there. he sucks. he has low range and he kicks low. he had 3 blocked kicks in under a year when most kickers have 1 or none in a year. he's strictly a backup kicker.
So what you are saying we have no punter.....Maybe we can get by with a healthy Hall? Is his kick-offs ever get better?
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So what you are saying we have no punter.....Maybe we can get by with a healthy Hall? Is his kick-offs ever get better?
frost will probably be doing the kickoffs until everyone is 150% sure that hall can do it without nuking his leg again.

there are 3 decent punters this year (imo) 2 will be 6th-7th round picks and 1 will be undrafted. we should get one as competition in the very least. or grab dirk johnson from the eagles... cause that'd give us a punter and screw the eagles a tiny bit as well.
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whoever wants novak to come back should stop right there. he sucks. he has low range and he kicks low. he had 3 blocked kicks in under a year when most kickers have 1 or none in a year. he's strictly a backup kicker.
I agree 1000% with this. Novak is a pretty accurate kicker. He gets decent leg behind his kicks too, but that's only because he's launching it so low. The blocks are killer, they're susceptible to being run back for TDs. He's not an option in my book.
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