taylors lawyer refuses plea bargain

[Monkeydad]

I agree...

If he was guilty, he wouldn't accepted this as a lesser punishment. I think the fact that he's not settling for this just to get out of the courtroom is an indication that he believes he's innocent. I think ParkerGibbs made a great point about having faith in the system if you know you're not guilty of the charges.

One thing I may think Taylor is guilty of would be hanging out with the wrong people. He DOES have a certain image that is often associated with criminals and by associating with people with that same image, he found himself amongst people that are going to get him in trouble or try to take advantage of his salary and status.

That's my take on it. I believe he'll be found innocent, but I hope he takes this as a life lesson and thinks a little more before he acts in the future.

[Hogroll]

I just had a discussion with my buddy that was a practicing attorney in Florida, Miami/Dade County. After forwarding him the article, and a little background, these are his thoughts:

It could settle as late as Friday afternoon... but I doubt it.. Miami Dade hates to settle anything high profile or in the news.. He's got a good self defense claim, could get off altogether. If he gets convicted it will be a lesser included offense and I would be shocked if he did any time....
...I would be shocked if he did time, even though he used a weapon.... it's not like he was robbing a place with a weapon...

I'm feeling pretty good about it..

[Twilbert07]

How nice is it that we even have to have this discussion at all? I wonder what Gibbs thinks about one of his best players cruising around town with a gun.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

How nice is it that we even have to have this discussion at all? I wonder what Gibbs thinks about one of his best players cruising around town with a gun.

There was no gun found, so who said he was cruising around town with a gun?

And honestly speaking, many athletes these days seem to "pack heat" (street vernacular) when they are out and about, probably out of fear of being confronted or targeted. Not sure, not condoning it, but it seems more and more common even by Hollywood types.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

There was no gun found, so who said he was cruising around town with a gun?

And honestly speaking, many athletes these days seem to "pack heat" (street vernacular) when they are out and about, probably out of fear of being confronted or targeted. Not sure, not condoning it, but it seems more and more common even by Hollywood types.

Of course thats not a good thing, but what 12th man is trying to say is, that everyone is all over ST like he is the worst person in the world, when we need to realize that this is an issue with alot of athletes and celebs. We should also address this problem as a whole, not through the "ST lenses". Human nature makes it very easy to put blame on one individual(scapegoat theory) rather than digging deep into the issue.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

There was no gun found, so who said he was cruising around town with a gun?

And honestly speaking, many athletes these days seem to "pack heat" (street vernacular) when they are out and about, probably out of fear of being confronted or targeted. Not sure, not condoning it, but it seems more and more common even by Hollywood types.

All right, let me ask you this. If some thugs stole Joe Gibbs' car, or his ATV, would he A) Call the police and let them handle or B) Go straight into the hood and try to beat the sh*t out or those he thinks stole it?

In other words, Skins players have to be thinking: What Would Joe Do?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

All right, let me ask you this. If some thugs stole Joe Gibbs' car, or his ATV, would he A) Call the police and let them handle or B) Go straight into the hood and try to beat the sh*t out or those he thinks stole it?

In other words, Skins players have to be thinking: What Would Joe Do?

Sure Joe Gibbs would probably call the police. But in the heat of the moment people are capable of many, many things. But to your point, I think it's safe to say Joe would call the police.

But the reality is they aren't Joe....so why should they be thinking what would Joe do? In fact, none of his players from the past ( 1st era) stopped to think that when they got involved in drugs and other illicit activities.

Do you always ask yourself that with regard to your present employer when making questionable decisions? I know I don't.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Joe Gibbs always packs heat. I don't know what you guys are talking about.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Joe Gibbs always packs heat. I don't know what you guys are talking about.

I know dude, I just wanted Twilbert to go on in blissful ignorance

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I know dude, I just wanted Twilbert to go on in blissful ignorance

If Joe's toting, I'm going out right now and buying a .22!

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

If Joe's toting, I'm going out right now and buying a .22!

Naw dude, I see you live in the ATL, you're going to need some heavier hardware than that!!!

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Naw dude, I see you live in the ATL, you're going to need some heavier hardware than that!!!

Ain't that the truth! I'll need an AK-47 to go out in Buckhead.

[dmek25]

didnt i see that on a rubber band bracelet somewhere?w.w.j.d.