Peter King Picks Dallas/New England Super Bowl

[MonkManiac]

Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Monk Maniac

I don't think that Dallas filled more holes than Washington, rather I think that the holes Dallas had were so obvious and glaring that when they got upgraded it seems like the 92/93 Cowboys all over again.

ST - Our Kicking game was horrible. Our PR was in the bottom half of the league. Optimists say that with a better kicker we could have gone 12-4. I don't think that is true but ....

WR - oh sorry..

SOLB - Demarcus Ware was getting a constant Chip or Double team because we did not have a threat on the Strong side last year - especially when Al Singleton went down. Bobby Carpenter will start in that position before game 5 and represents an upgrade in terms of being a threat to get to the QB. Carpenter and the FA Akin Ayondele help the Defense get bigger at LB in general and completes the switch to the 3/4.

QB - You are right. After Bledsoe, Jerry Jones might as well call me because we have nothing there. But Drew is Durable. He got Mashed last year Game after game but played every snap.

OL - Can we talk about something else? Okay they couldn't be worse. So we did pick up Fabini, Kosier (who was sought after by a few teams), and Columbo who was a former 1st round pick. What do you want me to say? if Parcells can get this line to work then just put him in Canton right away.
This is definately the biggest ?uestion mark this year. If they give Bledsoe protection, we will do well. if not.....

DL - Very strong here and got stronger - great DLine rotation that will help to cut down the amount of time those little recievers have to get open.

Thanks for the insights, 5RINGS.

This may be just me playing logical semantics, but:

1) If Dallas did not fill more holes than Washington; and
2) Dallas was 9-7 last year, did not make the playoffs, and was swept by Washington; and
3) Washington was 10-6 last year, reached the second round of the playoffs, and swept Dallas...

then how can one reasonably make the claim that the Cowboys are favorites to win the division/Super Bowl, much less perform better than the Redskins? The head-to-head matchup record, as well as overall season performance, would indicate that the Redskins were the better team last year. In order for the Cowboys to now be the better team, they would have had to fill more holes, because a lesser team couldn't possibly have fewer holes than a greater team to start with.

Granted, the use of "holes" as a barometer for improvement is not well-defined or easily measured, but I thought I'd post the argument. So much of the Cowboy-love coming out of the media is about how they have filled all their needs, while the Redskins-bashing centers around having spent a lot of money without really doing much.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by MonkManiac

Thanks for the insights, 5RINGS.

This may be just me playing logical semantics, but:

1) If Dallas did not fill more holes than Washington; and
2) Dallas was 9-7 last year, did not make the playoffs, and was swept by Washington; and
3) Washington was 10-6 last year, reached the second round of the playoffs, and swept Dallas...

then how can one reasonably make the claim that the Cowboys are favorites to win the division/Super Bowl, much less perform better than the Redskins? The head-to-head matchup record, as well as overall season performance, would indicate that the Redskins were the better team last year. In order for the Cowboys to now be the better team, they would have had to fill more holes, because a lesser team couldn't possibly have fewer holes than a greater team to start with.

Granted, the use of "holes" as a barometer for improvement is not well-defined or easily measured, but I thought I'd post the argument. So much of the Cowboy-love coming out of the media is about how they have filled all their needs, while the Redskins-bashing centers around having spent a lot of money without really doing much.

To make the prediction that the Cowboys will finish better than the Redskins in 2006, you must assume that the predictor also believes that the Cowboys roster was superior to Washington's going into last year. Its possible that there could have been reasons outside of roster talent that the Redskins swept the Cowboys and finished a game better. Favorable Schedule, injuries, and simple luck could have produced skewed results. This happens a lot in the NFL where the best team finishes behind someone in the division. Just last year it happened in the AFC North, AFC West, and NFC South. So this is a frequent occurance.

But I don't buy it because I predicted Washington to finish ahead of Dallas prior to last year, actually projecting Dallas correctly at 9-7. So I also find it hard to believe that so many "experts" could pick Dallas to win the division this year. I could justify the predictions of a few, but when they seem to be the consensus pick in the East, you know something is wrong with the world.

[MightyJoeGibbs]

P King is full of it
NFC East for sure.
Giants are dangerous, Cowboys how- whos going to throw the ball????
Patriots hahahaha right.... no way. AFC could be the Broncos believe it or not.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by MightyJoeGibbs

P King is full of it
NFC East for sure.
Giants are dangerous, Cowboys how- whos going to throw the ball????
Patriots hahahaha right.... no way. AFC could be the Broncos believe it or not.

Broncos finish 4th in the division.

I don't know, there's something about that Jake Plummer/Ron Dayne combination that doesn't scare me.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Broncos finish 4th in the division.

I don't know, there's something about that Jake Plummer/Ron Dayne combination that doesn't scare me.

Tatum Bell is no joke. Is it possible that Plummer actually will feel some pressure from Jay Cutler and starts to play consistantly well, or will we get to see another left handed pass?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Tatum Bell is no joke. Is it possible that Plummer actually will feel some pressure from Jay Cutler and starts to play consistantly well, or will we get to see another left handed pass?

i thought bledsoe was the guy that threw the left handed pass while he was still in buffalo (his last year).

i don't really think bell is all that great myself. plenty of speed, but i think as an every down back he'd get tired and slow down (one of those guys that'd get very little production with any carries after his first 15 or so). The broncos are consistantly good on O and D though, but bad QB play always seems to bite them at the wrong time.

steelers (w/ good rookie production), colts (w/ OL work an minus a QB choke job) might be more likely...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by That Guy

i thought bledsoe was the guy that threw the left handed pass while he was still in buffalo (his last year).

Might have happened with Bledsoe, but Plummer threw a left handed pass in Week 1 2004 vs. Kansas City. It was picked off.

From thus grows my lack of fear of the Plummer/Dayne combination.

[saden1]

I hate to say it but the team with the least "significant" injuries wins the division. Quality depth is a good thing to have but if you lose couple of key guys you tend to become one dimensional and we all know where one dimensional teams end up.

[BigSKINBauer]

When did we start carrying about peter king's opinions? I think the division right now interms of field talent is
1. Giants
2. Skins
3. Cowboys
4. Eagles

THe giants very well could be in great position to win the division but I hope that the far superior coaching staff can stop that. Also they play last year's 1 and 2 seeds teams in the NFC, so lets hope their tougher schedule helps the rest of us out. The cowboys o-line was bad last year and will be worse this year with the pass rush in this division. The Giants front 7 are going to dominate that game by themselves.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

When did we start carrying about peter king's opinions?

About the time we realized we are in the depths of the offseason and any scrap of information or commentary that is tangentially related to the 'Skins will be debated ad nauseaum.

(As someone noted on another thread "10 pages on Taylor Jacobs? It must be off season" - Actually, that could be a whole other thread: "You know it's offseason b/c ....." or "Ten pages on [____]? it must be offseason")

[That Guy]

giants front 7 only has great DEs... the DTs and LBs and decent, but not amazing. and their secondary has great depth, but the starters are still second rate.

[BigSKINBauer]

Originally Posted by That Guy

giants front 7 only has great DEs... the DTs and LBs and decent, but not amazing. and their secondary has great depth, but the starters are still second rate.

you took my mini-golf title. I took it back.

Their secondary sucks but it still isn't going to matter because that front 7 is going to be good. THeir DTs suck but that will effect the run more than anything. I don't know how anyone is going to stop osi/strahan and lavar off the side with pierce holding the middle. Their DEs do enough themselves and Lavar brings enough to make his side unstopable. Also with the us adding carter, who i think will be a top 10 DE, the cowboys need a great line to compete and that is going to destroy them. It all starts on the line.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Okay, Okay, Okay!

First off, I haven't re-mortgaged my house to get those early odds on Dallas winning the Super Bowl.

Even Peter King says that he picked Minnesota - MINNESOTA!?!?!? - and New England last year. In reality his choice probably dooms the Cowboys to an 8-8 season.

But he does bring up some good points -

1) The NFC EAST is the toughest division in Football.

2) The Cowboys have - on paper mind you - shored up their weak spots from last year. WR, Kicking, Bookend Strong side LB for Ware, Two TE offense (threat on both sides),

3) Notes that the Oline MUST perform better than last year. ( It couldn't be worse really)

4) I really don't care who comes out of the AFC. I hate the AFC. San Diego, Buffalo, Cleveland - I hate all those crappy AFC teams.


P.S. I have been wondering this offseason what the reason is for all the personnel changes in Washington. You guys did well last year and were a sloppy performance in Seattle away from going to the NFC Championship and maybe the Super Bowl.

Why so much upheaval?

1) He's right on that point !

2)Every team on paper has fixed their problems ,that's just stupid.

3) .......duh....and he gets paid for this .

4) AFC .Seahawks,or even Cleveland or Denver .

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I thought the Seahawks were NFC?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I thought the Seahawks were NFC?

Opps ,brain fart !