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Old 07-06-2006, 03:05 PM   #1
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ST getting some love in that article, very nice!

If he doesn't make the Pro Bowl this year something is seriously wrong.
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Old 07-06-2006, 03:12 PM   #2
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Their star is on the wane. I couldn't be happier.

Next, T.O. compounds their misery.

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Old 07-06-2006, 03:20 PM   #3
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I didnt agree with archuleta being over rated. I think he will excell in williams' defense and will be a great safety for the skins.
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Old 07-06-2006, 03:21 PM   #4
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I didnt agree with archuleta being over rated. I think he will excell in williams' defense and will be a great safety for the skins.
i agree. i think he was a star on a defense that has been horrible for years.
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Old 07-06-2006, 03:37 PM   #5
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I didnt agree with archuleta being over rated. I think he will excell in williams' defense and will be a great safety for the skins.
Archuleta is overrated because this guy thinks the Skins paid too much for him that all. Arch is an upgrade over Ryan Clark. We should be OK in coverage with Springs and Rogers at CB. Every Safety gets beat from time to time, Arch will help in run coverage and the many Blitz designs that Greg W. will put in. We will have two Big Hitters at Safety this year which will scare receivers into dropped balls and short routes. (see Terry "scary" Glenn last year)Arch won't cover much one-on one, but in zones.
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Old 07-07-2006, 01:50 AM   #6
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I didnt agree with archuleta being over rated. I think he will excell in williams' defense and will be a great safety for the skins.
who would you have chosen to be our overrated player instead? AR-el? carter? samuels? has to be somebody, and i think that's the right call.

for under rated you also had marcus and griffin and cooley... taylor is actually better know than all those guys (maybe even combined).

i had real problems with both roth as overrated (W-L, SB) and carr as underrated (i honestly think he's just not that good).
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:51 AM   #7
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I am glad Sean if finally getting his due in the NFL. He is probably top 2 or 3 at his position. The thing I get so pissed off about is the kicking and beat down the give Arch in every article I read. They keep bringing up the coverage skills. One, he is playing in a totally different defense, it isn't the cover 2 crap they played in St Louis. Two, he will not be asked to cover guys for an extended period of time, due to the aggressive style of defense we play. Three, Sean is our better coverage safety anyway, plus I think Arch was in the plans when we all say Clark get run over by LT in overtime. I believe, if you dont tell me why, that Arch was brought in more to rush the passer as a blitzer and cover the run. I dont think he is going to be in pass coverage as most seem the think.

But, Sean "grim reeper" taylor is a total beast. PS. sorry if that is spelled wrong.
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Old 07-07-2006, 01:50 PM   #8
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I am glad Sean if finally getting his due in the NFL. He is probably top 2 or 3 at his position. The thing I get so pissed off about is the kicking and beat down the give Arch in every article I read. They keep bringing up the coverage skills. One, he is playing in a totally different defense, it isn't the cover 2 crap they played in St Louis. Two, he will not be asked to cover guys for an extended period of time, due to the aggressive style of defense we play. Three, Sean is our better coverage safety anyway, plus I think Arch was in the plans when we all say Clark get run over by LT in overtime. I believe, if you dont tell me why, that Arch was brought in more to rush the passer as a blitzer and cover the run. I dont think he is going to be in pass coverage as most seem the think.

But, Sean "grim reeper" taylor is a total beast. PS. sorry if that is spelled wrong.
I agree. I think Greg Williams will use Arch to the best of his abilities (not the worst), which will probably mean more hitting and less coverage. You just gotta trust GW!
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Archuleta hasn't done as much in his career because of injury. He'll be a good addition to the defense, but i can see why Prisco called him overrated. He hasn't lived up to his potential. Hopefully, he'll prove to everyone that he's more than worth the money the Skins paid for him.
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Arch is not as bad in coverage as his rep would have you believe. He isn't great but he can do an average job. He brings some athleticism to the spot and an overall intelligence upgrade. I think he rounds out our secondary and gives us a little more versatility with Taylor. Taylor hits mean(and we love it) but his value is in down field coverage where he is more athletic than any safety in the league, 95% of the CBs and 85% of the WRs. He is a ball hawk who scares the hell out of WRs and most TEs. Arch can support the run almost as effectively(if not as spectacularly) and Taylor is clearly an upgrade in coverage than any saftey we have had in years(or ever really).

If healthy our secondary is the best in the league without doubt.

A pro bowl quality CB on oneside. A quality(maybe probowl if he continues to progress) CB on the other. An elite Strong Safety. A somewhat overrated safety who will asked to do what he does best. Our depth is weak but we can cross our fingers.
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:07 PM   #11
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Arch is not as bad in coverage as his rep would have you believe. He isn't great but he can do an average job. He brings some athleticism to the spot and an overall intelligence upgrade. I think he rounds out our secondary and gives us a little more versatility with Taylor. Taylor hits mean(and we love it) but his value is in down field coverage where he is more athletic than any safety in the league, 95% of the CBs and 85% of the WRs. He is a ball hawk who scares the hell out of WRs and most TEs. Arch can support the run almost as effectively(if not as spectacularly) and Taylor is clearly an upgrade in coverage than any saftey we have had in years(or ever really).

If healthy our secondary is the best in the league without doubt.

A pro bowl quality CB on oneside. A quality(maybe probowl if he continues to progress) CB on the other. An elite Strong Safety. A somewhat overrated safety who will asked to do what he does best. Our depth is weak but we can cross our fingers.
In that last paragraph, i think you mixed up strong safety and free safety. Taylor is a free safety, Archuleta is a strong safety.
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:35 PM   #12
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In that last paragraph, i think you mixed up strong safety and free safety. Taylor is a free safety, Archuleta is a strong safety.
Yeah I misspoke(typed??).
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Old 07-07-2006, 12:37 AM   #13
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[QUOTE=FRPLG]Arch is not as bad in coverage as his rep would have you believe. He isn't great but he can do an average job.

average? for the money were paying him he better damn sight be better then average,he needs to make the probowl,we shouldnt be paying that kind of money for average
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:07 PM   #14
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I also don't think we are planning on having Arch doing a lot of coverage anyway. I think he's supposed to be playing up in the box so that Taylor with his freak athleticism can do what he does best.
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Old 07-06-2006, 04:39 PM   #15
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I would also disagree with him saying big Ben is overrated. He is what going into his third year as a player and has won over 95% of his games. He saved them in the playoffs after the bus fumbled the ball and for his age has managed the field very well. Oh, and he has won a SB as the youngest QB ever and that should be enough in itself.
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