The Right Players For The Offense

[70Chip]

I think the Lineman themselves are responsible. Samuels has had some good years some bad. This seems to be a bad one. Ditto Jansen. Rabach does some things well but not others. Thomas may never play like he did last year again. (age, broken leg) They never have consistently played well. I think the Saunders offense has them confused as well. I would like to see them come out after the bye week with a more simplified running attack and get the hell away from all the screens and draws. Run the ball 30 times with Portis regardless of the score and try three 9 routes a half. That leaves at least 20 pass plays where they can TRY to drop back a throw REGULAR passes.

I think it's more than presumptuous to say that Gibbs doesn't understand the value of line play. I don't think it really deserves a response.

[Pocket$ $traight]

This offense needs one change and one change only. Cut off the head.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

If jason campbell is not the answer than maybe draft one in this year's draft or pick up green for a couple of years before he retires to lead us to the super bowl with the talent we have on this team.

WHAT? Pick up another aging QB? Sure he knows the system, but youth has to be the focus, not another mid to late thirty year old!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

WHAT? Pick up another aging QB? Sure he knows the system, but youth has to be the focus, not another mid to late thirty year old!

Shoot. Green is older than Brunell

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Shoot. Green is older than Brunell

EXACTLY! What's the point in that? We had our chance with Green and let him go.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

We need the bye to be over with now.

[Daseal]

HI, I'm Lindsy Lohan and this is how a crab walks!

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Daseal

HI, I'm Lindsy Lohan and this is how a crab walks!

HAHA, gotta love Family Guy!

[MTK]

I can't believe we're still debating whether CP is a good back or not.

Ridiculous.

It's not even worth discussing... seriously.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I can't believe we're still debating whether CP is a good back or not.

Ridiculous.

It's not even worth discussing... seriously.

Flush:

I agree compeltely. Panic is not a pretty thing.

[hail_2_da_skins]

Portis is not the freaking problem. No back can run when the other team is stacking 8 men in the box because the opposing quarterback cannot throw over the top. The problem is Mark Brunell, he does not keep the other team honest. Without the deep ball threat, teams will continue to take the running game and short passes away.

BENCH BRUNELL.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

Portis is not the freaking problem. No back can run when the other team is stacking 8 men in the box because the opposing quarterback cannot throw over the top. The problem is Mark Brunell, he does not keep the other team honest. Without the deep ball threat, teams will continue to take the running game and short passes away.

BENCH BRUNELL.

I completely agree.

Also, I am pleased with Portis' production. He has what, 6 td's? He missed most of 2 games too. So 6 td's in 5 games is outstanding.

[TrustinGibbs]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

Portis is not the freaking problem. No back can run when the other team is stacking 8 men in the box because the opposing quarterback cannot throw over the top. The problem is Mark Brunell, he does not keep the other team honest. Without the deep ball threat, teams will continue to take the running game and short passes away.

BENCH BRUNELL.

I agree with this. Offensively we're still adjusting to a new system and that sould be taken into account but Brunell's inability to keep teams honest is killing the base for this offense...the running game. They're stacking against the run because they have no fear of us going deep. On the rare occasion we try to go deep to keep the defense honest Brunell cannot even get out of his own way let alone a pass rusher resulting in alot of sacks and throw aways. The O line could be better but Brunells lack of mobility plays a large role too. Atleast Campbell can scramble and get the ball down field kepping teams alittle more honest IMO.

Also if our defense was at the level we were at the prevous two seasons the offense would be putting up enough point to have a far better record.

Portis is a top notch back who can do it all and plays hard.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by TrustinGibbs

I agree with this. Offensively we're still adjusting to a new system and that sould be taken into account but Brunell's inability to keep teams honest is killing the base for this offense...the running game. They're stacking against the run because they have no fear of us going deep. On the rare occasion we try to go deep to keep the defense honest Brunell cannot even get out of his own way let alone a pass rusher resulting in alot of sacks and throw aways. The O line could be better but Brunells lack of mobility plays a large role too. Atleast Campbell can scramble and get the ball down field kepping teams alittle more honest IMO.

Also if our defense was at the level we were at the prevous two seasons the offense would be putting up enough point to have a far better record.

Portis is a top notch back who can do it all and plays hard.

Well, try to understand what the running game is in Al's offense. It's the big play element of the offense. He uses the passing game to move the chains. Keeps it short, underneath, keeps drives moving.

He "takes shots" by running the ball. If the defense creeps up, and Portis can break through that first line, he's gone. So I would argue that Saunders is trying to get the D to creep up on him.

Portis is a home run hitter at RB, and I think that's how Al is trying to use him. Not to grind out the clock like last season.

[GTripp0012]

Mark Brunell 2006
64.1% completion
1465 yards
7 TDs, 3 INTs
90.4 QB rating

Say anything you want about how Brunell is "unable to stretch the field" (or any other subjective arguement), but when your numbers look like that and your offense ranks in the top ten in efficiency and scoring, you are not a problem, plain and simple. Hate to bring up this tired arguement, but it's still ridiculous to say otherwise.

I apologize on behalf of Mark Brunell for being 37 and not a very sexy player. All he does is produce from the QB position.