Trading Down the 1st Rounder next year

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

All of this depends upon how high our first rounder is and who's available in the draft. It's a little premature to think about it.

Glad I read this before I finished my three paragraph comment based on the same observation.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

All of this depends upon how high our first rounder is and who's available in the draft. It's a little premature to think about it.

If it's high enough to get a pass rushing DE like Quentin Moses (Georgia) or Gaines Adams (Clemson), then keep the pick. Otherwise, trading to the bottom of the first round to add an additional pick in the 2nd round wouldn't be a bad idea. Mkristo Bruce (Washington State) is an intriguing pass rush prospect who will probably be available in round 2.

[offiss]

We really don't have much ability to evaluate talent so as far as the draft goes, 1 possible 1st round bust or several late round busts, does it really matter with this group?

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

If it's high enough to get a pass rushing DE like Quentin Moses (Georgia) or Gaines Adams (Clemson), then keep the pick. Otherwise, trading to the bottom of the first round to add an additional pick in the 2nd round wouldn't be a bad idea. Mkristo Bruce (Washington State) is an intriguing pass rush prospect who will probably be available in round 2.

SouperMeiter - I follow the SEC (went to South Carolina - I know the old ballcoach slanders are going to roll in!)) and the DE's Moses and Johnson of Georgia are both pretty good.

One other question with the 1st rounder - in the TJ Duckett Trade I know we gave a 3rd rounder but I saw a report that in addition we may have to swap 1st round picks with Denver next year as well if the Redskins have a worse record than them and the difference between the Redskins 1st round pick and Denver's is greater than the value of a 3rd round pick. If this is the case the Redkisn switch 1st rounders with them, otherwise the Broncos also get our 4th rounder next year. Is this true? If so than we need to put call blocking on the Redskins phone line with the Broncos front office ASAP.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Bill B

SouperMeiter - I follow the SEC (went to South Carolina - I know the old ballcoach slanders are going to roll in!)) and the DE's Moses and Johnson of Georgia are both pretty good.

One other question with the 1st rounder - in the TJ Duckett Trade I know we gave a 3rd rounder but I saw a report that in addition we may have to swap 1st round picks with Denver next year as well if the Redskins have a worse record than them and the difference between the Redskins 1st round pick and Denver's is greater than the value of a 3rd round pick. If this is the case the Redkisn switch 1st rounders with them, otherwise the Broncos also get our 4th rounder next year. Is this true? If so than we need to put call blocking on the Redskins phone line with the Broncos front office ASAP.

The way I understand it, the value difference of our 1st round picks only equates to the value of a 3rd if the 1st rounders are 8 or 10 apart. Denver's pick will likely be late in the first round. So unless we finish with 10 wins, I don't see that swap of 1st rounders getting invoked. That said, giving up next year's 3rd round pick for a guy who never sees the light of day (and will walk after the year as a free agent) may be one of the worst trades we've ever made. The NFL is littered with starters drafted in the 3rd round or later. Don't get me started on Gibbs's unwillingness to build a team with our own draft picks!!!

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

The way I understand it, the value difference of our 1st round picks only equates to the value of a 3rd if the 1st rounders are 8 or 10 apart. Denver's pick will likely be late in the first round. So unless we finish with 10 wins, I don't see that swap of 1st rounders getting invoked. That said, giving up next year's 3rd round pick for a guy who never sees the light of day (and will walk after the year as a free agent) may be one of the worst trades we've ever made. The NFL is littered with starters drafted in the 3rd round or later. Don't get me started on Gibbs's unwillingness to build a team with our own draft picks!!!

Gibbs believes veterans win Superbowls. He's old and wants to win now, not 5yrs from now.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Bill B

With the salary cap situation the Redkisns are in and the amount of current draft picks we have for 2007 left - doesn't it make sense to trade the pick down for multiple picks? I would think this would be the best solution because it allows you to pick up more players (the draft is a difficult science and more picks allows the team to have additional shots at gettig NFL cailber talent) and by moving down is easier to sign these players and give some relief to the cap in the future.

Any chance the Reskins go this route?

I don't see it happening that way....

[The Zimmermans]

We need as many picks as possible, we need to rebuild our defense. All the strengths of our defense are OLD MEN, washington, Daniels, Springs. The only promising young player is sean taylor. Trading down is the answer.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

We need as many picks as possible, we need to rebuild our defense. All the strengths of our defense are OLD MEN, washington, Daniels, Springs. The only promising young player is sean taylor. Trading down is the answer.

Don't give up on Rogers so quickly. He's very physical against the run for a CB, and if we add a real pass rush, he may become solid cover corner in time.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Don't give up on Rogers so quickly. He's very physical against the run for a CB, and if we add a real pass rush, he may become solid cover corner in time.

Rogers sucks. Just my opinion. I've never seen a guy MOVE AWAY from a ball like he does. He sits and waits for the receiver to make his move, or he interferes.

[RedskinRat]

Coach Gibbs has built the team, they just haven't performed as expected.

It may even be too soon yet, I know I'm very impatient.

Now I have a lovely new Avatar I'm a much better, more patient person*.

Thanks Matty!








* Possibly a complete lie.

[RedskinRat]

Rogers is an unpolished diamond.

He'll be a dominant CB, just give him time.

[The Zimmermans]

I've noticed how slow our defense seems this year, anyone else think we need some more speed, especially in the secondary?????

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

I've noticed how slow our defense seems this year, anyone else think we need some more speed, especially in the secondary?????

You think??????

[dmek25]

i was watching some of the games from last year, and the biggest difference is that the defense just isn't getting to the ball carrier. last year, there were a bunch of guys tackling the ball. this year its usually only one or two guys. to me, thats just a lack of hustle, and determination