Gibbs looks angry during press conference

[70Chip]

When I watch Carlos Rogers try to cover, I think that Williams deserves to be in the HoF for holding Tampa to 20 points today. He really is having to compensate for his secondary. When we get in Goalline where he can commit to stopping the run, they look like the last two years Redskins. Between the twenties where he has to worry about big plays, they get gashed. I think he is being forced to play conservative because Springs is the only guy that can cover and he's not 100 percent. Ditto Taylor. He looked like he had the flu or something today. I don't believe that the D-Line is the culprit. Otherwise they wouldn't be capable of goalline stands like they are. I think it's injuries, shoddy play at 2 or 3 critical positions, and scheme.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

When I watch Carlos Rogers try to cover, I think that Williams deserves to be in the HoF for holding Tampa to 20 points today. He really is having to compensate for his secondary. When we get in Goalline where he can commit to stopping the run, they look like the last two years Redskins. Between the twenties where he has to worry about big plays, they get gashed. I think he is being forced to play conservative because Springs is the only guy that can cover and he's not 100 percent. Ditto Taylor. He looked like he had the flu or something today. I don't believe that the D-Line is the culprit. Otherwise they wouldn't be capable of goalline stands like they are. I think it's injuries, shoddy play at 2 or 3 critical positions, and scheme.

A typical example to demonstrate of what you speak was the 85 yd. drive in 14 plays that resulted in the TD that bounced off Galloway to Anthony Becht. The only time on that drive we played any D. at all was when TB was 1st and goal inside the two yd. line. We stopped Alstott on 1st & 2nd down forcing the 3rd down throw, which save for luck would have been an incomplete pass forcing a FG atempt as opposed to a TD. During that drive our D was completely gashed.

[Jason72]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I said it in another thread, I think he was calling out Saunders and GW a bit today. Anyone else get that feeling?

I agree with you. I hope he will drop all the Mr. Nice Guy stuff. He's the Hall of Famer, take charge!

[Daseal]

He was mad he didnt have an excuse to put Mark brunell back in.

Ah, I love starting a fire!

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Daseal

He was mad he didnt have an excuse to put Mark brunell back in.

Ah, I love starting a fire!

And you know how I love to put those fire's out with gasoline.

All this nonesense about Saunders not getting the job done as if we were able to get the job done when Gibbs was calling the play's, the only difference with Gibbs calling the play's was he would run 3 times into a stacked line for about 3 yards late in the game and punt, then hope the defense bails him out. Well the defense isn't bailing anyone out this year which is putting a huge focus on the inability of the offense which has existed since Gibbs return.

Funny I don't here a peep about Bugel? The more I watch, the more I feel the game has long passed him by, teams blitz and succeed at will, how many times are we going to see a team bring up thier safeties to the line of scrimmage [over the center and guards no less] and not be blocked? Either this line needs to be completly overhauled, or Bugel can't handle these Blitzing defenses, remember these defenses today are hybrids of the Buddy Ryan 46, which bugel never had much succees against, seems to me our line could very well be improperly coached and illprepaired, Either way Gibbs should have identified the problem long ago and started the process of fixing it.

I know we are being knocked for not running much today, but it didn't look like to me we were going to make many first down's running, there wasen't a lot of room out there, and rightly so, any good coordinator is going to make a rookie QB [especially in his first start] beat them.

Yea Gibbs was mad, he should have been that mad 2 seasons ago, some how when we lose with Brunell it's much more palitable for him than with someone else.

Brunell is out, and no one fought thier gut's out? IRONIC!


As far as personel moves being someone else's fault? Nonesense! Gibbs has final say, perhaps he should stop listening to the great Clinton Portis when it comes to personel and football related matters. Let's hear it for Sean Taylor, and Chris Cooley, why you ask? Because in 3 year's that's the only legitamate talent we have produced in the draft. Nice job GM JOE.

[SmootSmack]

It's almost like he was saying "Ok Al, I made the change at QB you've got your guy now." Now he's turning his attention to Williams and saying "so what the hell is your issue?"

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

It's almost like he was saying "Ok Al, I made the change at QB you've got your guy now." Now he's turning his attention to Williams and saying "so what the hell is your issue?"

Well, let's see...

--Thinking that Cornelius Griffin can anchor the line and stop the run all by himself for the third straight year without missing a beat?

--Relying on Joe Salave'a, a guy who was out of football for more than a year, who's had a history of injuries, who was probably best suited as rotation at best, but is now a full time defensive tackle?

--Keeping rejects and castoffs like Renaldo Wynn and Philip Daniels around because they're such great leaders?

--Hoping that 6th and 7th round picks like Cedric Golston and Montegomery can fill in and stuff the run when this front office hasn't had any success at drafting anybody who's been worth a damn in the 6th and 7th round?

How's that for starters? And I didn't even mention Arch, Rogers, Holdman, McIntosh and Andre Carter!

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

It's almost like he was saying "Ok Al, I made the change at QB you've got your guy now." Now he's turning his attention to Williams and saying "so what the hell is your issue?"

That's exactly what he SHOULD be doing. This defense should have been the main area of concern since the beginning of the season.

[B.F. SKINner]

I for one am glad to see him show some anger. He didn't stand by his old b.s. rhetoric, "fighting guts out", etc. It was refreshing. Now that he doesn't have to defend Brunell, I think he's freed up to be more honest about the team.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by B.F. SKINner

I for one am glad to see him show some anger. He didn't stand by his old b.s. rhetoric, "fighting guts out", etc. It was refreshing. Now that he doesn't have to defend Brunell, I think he's freed up to be more honest about the team.

I'm happy about it too. Don't get me wrong, I love how loyal Gibbs is to his players, but I'm hoping his anger will light a fire under some asses. I just hope he doesn't get so frustrated that he entertains thoughts of retirement.

[skinsguy]

It is funny how some of you guys can't get passed this thing with Joe Gibbs and Mark Brunell, but you can completely ignore the fact that the real reasons why we're losing games are the defense and the inconsistent playcalling from Al Saunders. I'll admit, I was very excited to see Al Saunders coming here, but this team wins with Joe Gibbs football, and they're not playing Joe Gibbs football.

A side note...I think Jason Campbell played more than well enough to have won us a ball game,but he has completely NO HELP from anybody else with the exception of Loyd, ARE, and Cooley.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

It is funny how some of you guys can't get passed this thing with Joe Gibbs and Mark Brunell, but you can completely ignore the fact that the real reasons why we're losing games are the defense and the inconsistent playcalling from Al Saunders. I'll admit, I was very excited to see Al Saunders coming here, but this team wins with Joe Gibbs football, and they're not playing Joe Gibbs football.

A side note...I think Jason Campbell played more than well enough to have won us a ball game,but he has completely NO HELP from anybody else with the exception of Loyd, ARE, and Cooley.

We are losing games because of the guys that GIBBS wanted . Gibbs brought these players in here , and he brought in Saunders . Gibbs is they guy willing to trade draft picks like they are worthless . And he keeps talking about character ,, Moss and Taylor have committed about a dozen personal fouls this year . If character is so important , why do we keep going the the " U " for talent ? Moss , ya he is really tough sitting out again , he could have run some plays to help JC . JC looked good , now we need some help on the OL , DL , LB and DB's .

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

A side note...I think Jason Campbell played more than well enough to have won us a ball game,but he has completely NO HELP from anybody else with the exception of Loyd, ARE, and Cooley.

Randle El had one catch for 14 yards. He started today right? Was he #2 or #3 behind Thrash and Lloyd?

Maybe it was inexperience at QB combined with a good pass defense? At what point do we start raising some eyebrows at Randle El's production as a wideout?

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Randle El had one catch for 14 yards. He started today right? Was he #2 or #3 behind Thrash and Lloyd?

Maybe it was inexperience at QB combined with a good pass defense? At what point do we start raising some eyebrows at Randle El's production as a wideout?

He's never going to catch 80 balls. What they need from him is to do his punt return thing and then provide one or two explosive plays on offense per game. Those may be runs, passes, or catches. I don't see him ever breaking out for 10 catches and 200 yards in a game. If he were capable of that, he would have done it in Pittsburgh. The Steelers are not a club that allows any talent to go to waste. If he had potential as a great WR, Cowher would have dragged it out of him. Instead he ended up in the role that he did which will end up being the same role he plays for us. That's why Lloyd was also signed. He is the more traditional WR compliment to Moss.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

He's never going to catch 80 balls. What they need from him is to do his punt return thing and then provide one or two explosive plays on offense per game. Those may be runs, passes, or catches. I don't see him ever breaking out for 10 catches and 200 yards in a game. If he were capable of that, he would have done it in Pittsburgh. The Steelers are not a club that allows any talent to go to waste. If he had potential as a great WR, Cowher would have dragged it out of him. Instead he ended up in the role that he did which will end up being the same role he plays for us. That's why Lloyd was also signed. He is the more traditional WR compliment to Moss.

If that is the case then he is being paid too much for what he is doing. That money he is making sure could be spent elsewhere.