Not enough protection for Campbell along with Campbell's inexperience=offensive woes

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The lack of good protection is what was most obvious to me. Too often he had guys running at him totally unblocked. That's a tough task for any QB let alone an inexperienced one.

Our pass blocking has been overrated for years though. Last year, Mark Brunell led the league in QB hurries (this stat was surprising to me), and that was with Portis. This year, Portis has been injured, and was basically a non factor on third downs before heading to IR. Consequently, our pass blocking has been horrible at times this season, merely adequate at others.

The hogs up front have done a great job moving people off the ball in the run game, both this year and last, but as Campbell grows, I think we may have to start moving to a pass oriented blocking scheme, and might want to bring in some different linemen to do it. I'm not sure I'd bring Dock back next year.

Also, when was the last time a lineman held on a run play? It always seems to be a reciever or TE getting called. But in pass protection, we get flags all the time with the front 5.

[irish]

Maybe I missed it but why wont the coaches let JC run out of a shotgun? It would give him more time to read the D and not have to worry about dropping back. Its these little things this coaching staff just does not do that makes me wonder about them.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by irish

Maybe I missed it but why wont the coaches let JC run out of a shotgun? It would give him more time to read the D and not have to worry about dropping back. Its these little things this coaching staff just does not do that makes me wonder about them.

Well I think they wanted to keep the D honest, and make them expect run. This way they could pass more effectively, but they should have thrown that plan out by the forth quarter.

[hooskins]

Another point that most people here seem to miss is that Betts and Sellers seem to whiff their blocks when they are suppose to protect JC. I think JC got pressured even more because Portis was a great blocker, much better than Betts.

The Redskins are nothing without Portis. I still can't believe people want him out of here.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Another point that most people here seem to miss is that Betts and Sellers seem to whiff their blocks when they are suppose to protect JC. I think JC got pressured even more because Portis was a great blocker, much better than Betts.

The Redskins are nothing without Portis. I still can't believe people want him out of here.

That's the point I was gonna make. The last pick Campbell threw, he got layed out by an unblocked linebacker while Betts tried to help on a Coleman (I think) who was already being double teamed. He can't block to save his life. That's why he's not a #1 back, that and he pretty just runs to daylight and then doesn't break enough tackles. He hits the right wholes, makes nice cutbacks, but never really seems like he's anything to fear for a D. I know he ran for 155 and a TD, but he sucked at blocking/picking up the blitz and just didn't really make a lot of meaningful runs after the first quarter.

[VTSkins897]

Agreed.

Too many offensive woes and not enough offensive WHOAS!

[dmek25]

campbells drops in the pocket are what he has practiced. the only difference is the line isnt blocking. im ready to go back to max protection and 2 wide receiver routes

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by hooskins

b)Campbell took too many steps back, instead of releasing quickly. This is a combination of the playcalling and Campbell being uncomfortable. Saunders should have told him to do quick three step drops, but at the same time if he isn't yet comfortable doing so, how can Saunders force him to? I think he is taking 7 step drops because he is still young, and he feels he needs time and space to read the D. 2-3 step passes may be a bit too quick for him.

c)The windup. Yes I said it. He takes a bit too long to release the throw. I expect this to be changed in the offseason, and I don't expect or want it to be fixed now. JC is just throwing how he feels is best. Nevertheless, the extra half second it takes him to windup can easily be the difference between a TD and a sack.

Campbell seems to be in slow motion on his delivery. He has great velocity, but man that ball takes forever to get out. I think we will need to live with it. It's hard to break down a QB's mechanics and rebuild.

Campbell had some time on plays and missed. It's no big deal, it's to be expected. Let's not throw the OL under the bus. They weren't that bad. Campbell showed some sparks that have been missing. I think he'll be good next year when has the rest of this season to learn, and all the offseason to learn the books and take the snaps under center during practice / preseason. Campbell has the intangibles that we've been looking for. Just be patient guys. The best way to look at it is "our season is done", as soon as we all come to grips with that, the better we can see what we need and who is showing sparks of greatness. When we lost our 7th game, I had the mental mindset that the season was over. It's easier to see the team for what they are. Beleive it or not, we're not that far away from being a superbowl caliber team. Time and a couple key free agents will be the answer. CB and Kicker should be our area of focus for the free agents, then get a quality draft. The rest will come together. We were too optimistic to beleive that we could succeed with a new offensive system and a lot of injuries on the defensive side of the ball and no depth.

[railcon56]

I know our coach was always yelling....get ur butt down before you catch a cold...

[MTK]

Cutler has to do the same thing in Denver with Tom Nalen. Nalen also sets up pretty low.

Not sure what you can do about it. Do you really want the center to change his stance? Rabach is on the tall side for a center (6-4), so I'm sure the main reason his stance is low is for leverage purposes.

[Dogtag]

At the risk of being branded a Redskins heretic, JC is still a project. I hope he develops into a hall of fame quarterback for the Redskins; however, he is not playing well now.

We can list all the excuses for this that might make us feel better, but the bottom line is that we have a novice NFL QB that is not rocking the NFL world right now.

[Waleo]

If the ran a couple of screens ATL would of had to calm down on there blitzes. When I say screen passes I'm talking about screens to the RB.

[The Zimmermans]

Yeah, not sure why we didnt run screens or that quick slant once they started blitzing

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

Yeah, not sure why we didnt run screens or that quick slant once they started blitzing

I know we tried one screen that just looked horrible from the get go, but I think it might have been a screen to Mike Sellers or Cooley and not Betts. I can't remember though.

[The Zimmermans]

The playaction was really slowing the development of the plays, and with their all out blitzing scheme, the PA shoulda been thrown out the window in the second half.