Gibbs will be back next year

[mason4415]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

No need to continue to toss gas on the fire, let's not carry that other conversation over here. Thanks

sorry man. i just don't get the optimism. we are 4-8 this year. i'm just tired of this "we're going to go 12-4 this year" before EVERY single season. as much as i absolutely LOVE the redskins, and as much as they are a part of my heart and soul, I think it's time to start getting realistic about the team. we have made the playoffs 2 times in 14 years, yet people seem to think "don't worry, we'll be good next year" it doesn't make any sense to me. redskin fans over the past 14 years, me included, are the most overly-optimistic fans in the history of sports. i think it's time to realize that our beloved, great franchise is no longer that - great.

anyway, i am done with stating the way i feel about the franchise and the coaching staff. and i apologize for having such high expectations for the franchise that i love.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mason4415

anyway, i am done with stating the way i feel about the franchise and the coaching staff.

Great.

thanks

[irish]

Originally Posted by mason4415

sorry man. i just don't get the optimism. we are 4-8 this year. i'm just tired of this "we're going to go 12-4 this year" before EVERY single season. as much as i absolutely LOVE the redskins, and as much as they are a part of my heart and soul, I think it's time to start getting realistic about the team. we have made the playoffs 2 times in 14 years, yet people seem to think "don't worry, we'll be good next year" it doesn't make any sense to me. redskin fans over the past 14 years, me included, are the most overly-optimistic fans in the history of sports. i think it's time to realize that our beloved, great franchise is no longer that - great.

anyway, i am done with stating the way i feel about the franchise and the coaching staff. and i apologize for having such high expectations for the franchise that i love.

Dont worry about it mason, most on this site dont want to hear the truth because right now as a redskins fan the truth (that this organization is a joke from top to bottom) hurts.

[LMsexyAO]

Originally Posted by mason4415

sorry man. i just don't get the optimism. we are 4-8 this year. i'm just tired of this "we're going to go 12-4 this year" before EVERY single season. as much as i absolutely LOVE the redskins, and as much as they are a part of my heart and soul, I think it's time to start getting realistic about the team. we have made the playoffs 2 times in 14 years, yet people seem to think "don't worry, we'll be good next year" it doesn't make any sense to me. redskin fans over the past 14 years, me included, are the most overly-optimistic fans in the history of sports. i think it's time to realize that our beloved, great franchise is no longer that - great.

anyway, i am done with stating the way i feel about the franchise and the coaching staff. and i apologize for having such high expectations for the franchise that i love.

You, my friend, are an idiot. Last year= second round of the playoffs, if that's not "realistic" I don't know what is...

[Darrell_Green_28]

Originally Posted by mason4415

nothing will change... we will not make the playoffs again under Joe Gibbs 2.0, i guarantee it. Just look at us compared to the rest of the division. Pencil Dallas in for the division for the next 2+ years. Philly continues to re-load. NYG have potential if Eli gets better. And they all have the flexibility to improve. We do not.

Plus, Joe Gibbs 1.0 was a genius. Joe Gibbs 2.0 is submissive and incompetent, to be blunt!

so what does that make you?? i dont see why you dont think it will be better next year. and if you are wrong on your guarantee whats in it for the rest of us??
Mod please save this Guarantee so we can pull it out next year and rub it in his face.

[MTK]

OBC didn't have a choice though, totally different circumstances.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

OBC didn't have a choice though, totally different circumstances.

OBC wasnt fired, he quit.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

OBC wasnt fired, he quit.

whatever makes you sleep at night

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

whatever makes you sleep at night

He slunk out of town and phoned in his resignation from a golf course. Danny wasnt sad to see him go but he did not fire him.

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[mason4415]

Whoops, Sorry about that!

[paulskinsfan]

I hope it works, I really do.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

I hope it works, I really do.

I feel the same way. This is probably the best thing for Campbell's development.

[Beemnseven]

I guess this will put me in the minority here, but I would give the coaching staff at least one more season. I want Gibbs back. As head coach only.

Give Saunders another year for his offense to integrate with these players, if we’re as incompetent and inept this time next season, then get rid of him. Williams has proven he can coordinate a top five defense, so I’m not going to throw him under the bus because the players that worked 2 years ago now appear old.

The only thing that needs to change is the director of player personnel. Bring Beathard back, Casserly, pry away Scott Peoli from New England ... something. Anything but the dopes that are in charge now. I know some will disagree, but even those people have to admit that the strategy we have used for the past three seasons with Gibbs, and every other year except for the ‘01 season under Schottenheimer have been an outright disaster.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I guess this will put me in the minority here, but I would give the coaching staff at least one more season. I want Gibbs back. As head coach only.

Give Saunders another year for his offense to integrate with these players, if we’re as incompetent and inept this time next season, then get rid of him. Williams has proven he can coordinate a top five defense, so I’m not going to throw him under the bus because the players that worked 2 years ago now appear old.

The only thing that needs to change is the director of player personnel. Bring Beathard back, Casserly, pry away Scott Peoli from New England ... something. Anything but the dopes that are in charge now. I know some will disagree, but even those people have to admit that the strategy we have used for the past three seasons with Gibbs, and every other year except for the ‘01 season under Schottenheimer have been an outright disaster.

I agree. Since Gibbs is coming back with entire staff in tow, I hope that they FINALLY will acknowledge that they do not evaluate the draft and free agency well. Also, it would be nice to have someone who is 100% accountable for their selections.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I guess this will put me in the minority here, but I would give the coaching staff at least one more season. I want Gibbs back. As head coach only.

Give Saunders another year for his offense to integrate with these players, if we’re as incompetent and inept this time next season, then get rid of him. Williams has proven he can coordinate a top five defense, so I’m not going to throw him under the bus because the players that worked 2 years ago now appear old.

I agree. Even though we have had a disastrous season to this point, I can see some positives. I don't know about you guys, but I can see some sparks in the offense. Campbell has some growth to do, we all agree with that, but it appears he can create the sparks we need, and leadership we need to have a super offense. The offense (minus Brunell) is much more explosive. It just stalls due to inexperience at the leadership position right now. We were up 14-0 vs Atlanta and looked like we would destroy them, then we died. Give Campbell some more time and we'll be fine.
Saunders offense will succeed if we give it time. Williams is a great defensive coach...the D has done well the past two games...we just have no depth at CB. In a passing league, that spells huge problems. Bailey and Smoot are laughing at us now.
So, if we sure up the D with CB's next year, we'll see a huge difference. I'm trying not to be overly optimistic, but I can see where we lack, and if we fix it, we can make a sizable difference. 5-11 is likely, but I could see us pull a worst to first scenario next season.