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12-06-2006, 09:42 PM
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Re: Is Scott Pioli available after the season?
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-I think, just speculation, the reason they traded for Brunell instead of waiting for him to be released was to get him to camp before June -I didn't and still don't have a problem overall with this deal -El and Lloyd: I like that we went after two receivers, though I don't know these are the two we needed to go after. I think El is on a higher level overall than Thrash, Betts, or Cartwright, but-while I like Lloyd-I would have preferred a Jurevicius to counter what El and Moss bring to the table. As far as the money portion of it, I don't know how much say Gibbs has over that part of it really. -The Duckett move still baffles me, especially with news that Betts will most likely be returning next year -Philosophically I don't have a problem with the move-getting a player now and sitting him on the bench for a year. I don't think a draft pick needs to play right away. I think the mistake was in who they acquired. I would have rather they went after a lineman like a Winston Justice or a Marcus McNeill (again, realizing they wouldn't play in 2006). -I just don't know what to say about the Archuleta fiasco...sigh
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12-08-2006, 11:25 AM
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When did they sign Brunell? It was in March wasn't it? So how many OTAs and minicamps would he have missed by not being here until June? Either way, losing a 3rd round choice for extra couple of weeks or so with the playbook is awfully expensive, especially for a veteran who's seen his fair share of playbooks. |
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12-08-2006, 11:28 AM
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12-08-2006, 05:09 PM
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Re: Is Scott Pioli available after the season?
I would think most on the board would agree the moves the FO have made under Gibbs 2 have been made so the Redskins can win now - handing over huge signing bonuses, trading away multiple draft picks, etc. and this is a sign of a team gunning for the super bowl trophy at all costs.
I believe this philiosphy is due to the fact (as Wilbon wrote in his column this week) that the coach is also the GM and therefore is mostly thinking about winning next week and is not worried about the long term future of the franchise with regard to draft picks, salary cap structure, etc. I am not trying to run Gibbs the coach out of town - the guy is an amazing coach who knows what he is doing in this department and is second to none in my book. But as far as having him the GM as well - I think this is similar to goverment with no checks and balances. We need these positions to be seperate so the long-term viability of on field success can be sustained. Does anyone else get tired of the team having to rip apart the roster when all the salaries escalate in the 3rd/4th year and having to rebuild? What about all the dead cap space the team will have to contend with as well as releasing fees? To me this is why the Patriots have been able to field a team that wins over the course of the decade (not just one or two years. Pioli understands that huge bonuses should only be given to a select few and many parts are replaceable if you got a scouting department that can find young, hungry cheap talent in the draft. Say what you want about the current regime and that things will turn around, but wait till the team has to renegotiate just to get under the cap, cut some other guys and again be the leaders in dead cap space. Will the team ever learn you sustain long term success by biulding within through the draft and you plug an expensive free agent or two at most? |
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12-06-2006, 11:09 PM
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We have a decent young core on defense with Taylor, Washington, and Rogers (hopefully more from him) -- and we can use our 1st pick for a legit DE. The rest of the guys are getting old, but Griffin will be a force for a while longer. As for offensive personnel -- it's fine, with the exception of OL depth. That can be fixed relatively easily. Overall, I think we can solve our problems and get back on track next season -- even after all the mistakes that you outlined. HAIL!
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12-08-2006, 12:11 PM
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this team still today has too much baggage it needs to get rid of and in the front office and on the field.....
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with the sixth pick dan synder selects......daniel synder ...to find someone that will be a better fit for the front office.. |
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12-08-2006, 12:30 PM
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- Passing on Jevon Kearse to sign Marcus Washington AND Cornelius Griffin. - Trading picks to move up and obtain Cooley (Would he have been available? It's a crap shoot - but given his ability, certainly worth what we traded). - Sean Taylor over Kellen Winslow. - No signings last year except Rabach who has been a solid, if not stellar, player. - Finding Golston in the latter rounds. While I agree that it seems the misses have far outnumbered the hits, the hits have been pretty solid. Without a team by team analysis, its kinda unfair to say "We suck" in the personnel dept. The "Patriot Model" has been successful b/c they have had solid personnel and good coaching - but what about the other 30 teams? What is their track record (and PLEASE don't cite me the Eagles - When they win a Superbowl, let's talk). My own preference would be for Gibbs to step back further and become the Jack Kent Cooke part of a management triumvarite (Gibbs, when appropriate, would then turn to Danny and say - "I need a check" to which Danny says "Yes sir!"). A head coach and general manager would be appointed, they would duke it out over personnel and Gibbs would make the final call. Not saying that would happen, but, if Gibbs proposed it, Snyder would make it so.
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12-08-2006, 01:00 PM
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MB saved HOF Coach Gibbs life the night they first met. HOF Saved! CP - In excess of 1500 yards each of his first two seasons, with a PO win last year. BL aka. Jr., give me a break, it's LDS's money! His team! ARE - See BL above. Rocky - He's a rook! Give the FO and GW a break. GW spots the rooks. (Exception: Goldston, due to injuries) AA was displaced by a rook on his last team. I knew it when the FO signed him in error. NO GM running the B&G ranch, however, and again, it's LDS's money. OK, a mistake on this one, but I knew it then in FA. Now we all know it. D needs to be healthy all year. Problem solved. With Goldston, Montgomery, Rogers, and ST, we have youth. Health is needed, not gutting. How do you "overestimate" a three time SB Champion, HOF Coach?
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12-08-2006, 05:37 PM
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And nobody questions that it's LDS's money, or that it's his team. But that money does count against the cap. Could that have something to do with why there's no one we can turn to in the secondary but Mike Rumph and Ade Jimoh? Or why someone named Todd Wade might play in place of Jon Jansen this weekend? Meanwhile, Randle El, David Patten, and James Thrash will be keeping the seats warm when the offense is in 2 wideout formations (which is usually the case, except when it's time for a 5-yard loss on a double reverse?) Sure it's his money. But can we at least demand that he be more smart about spending it? |
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12-08-2006, 06:03 PM
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Uncle Phil
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Re: Is Scott Pioli available after the season?
Doesn't look like Pioli will be available anyway
LancasterOnline.com: Key Patriots Exec Signs Contract Extension
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12-08-2006, 10:55 PM
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12-09-2006, 01:36 PM
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It be interesting to see when that extension expires since the article was in July 2005. I would love to see him here but one thing to also consider is not only would a new GM have to work with Gibbs, but he would also have to be able to work with Synder - no easy task considering the patience (or lack of) that Synder shows with most of his employees. |
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12-09-2006, 01:39 PM
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12-10-2006, 01:55 PM
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12-08-2006, 04:02 PM
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