A Kris Jenkins Rumor

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

You're probably right about that, but like I said, I figured I'd share, at least to stir the pot a little bit.

Some people, I don't wanna say names, are gonna get all worked up about this thread lol. Watch, just give it until tonight.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Some people, I don't wanna say names, are gonna get all worked up about this thread lol. Watch, just give it until tonight.

I know, and I also have a good idea of who they'll be, but it's the offseason for us and I'm already bored with most of this stuff.

[56FAN]

would welcome him, but have no idea how it would be done.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Kris Jenkins was considered to be the best DT in the league before Shaun Rogers emerged. If people recall, Spurrier was supposedly contemplating making a push to trade for Rogers (who, at the time, was considered to be a lazy underacheiver). Kris Jenkins is a high-risk, high-reward type of player. He's dominant when totally healthy, but he is rarely healthy.

I doubt we're making a push for the guy, but I'd be fine with any attempt to get him. My guess is that Carolina would probably ask to swap 1st rounders (they pick 14th) and pick up a 3rd rounder next season. If we were to do that (which I said I doubt will happen), we could probably pick up a guy like Reggie Nelson, Leon Hall, Laron Landry, Patrick Willis or, if Jansen is leaving, Levi Brown.

[diehardskin2982]

That is similar to a rumor here in washington that Portis is selling his house right now. A guy called into the 980 the local radio station and said it but we'll see

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

at this point, bringing in players means cutting someone you already have for the money...I saw we stick to corner...and then fill needs in the draft

[GoSkins!]

We haven't overpayed for an aging vet in a while now. I'm starting to have withdrawal symptoms from it. Let's do it!

[Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor]

I would love this guy in hoping that he can saty healthy. This guy is a beast at 6'4 340+ lbs. who can get to the qb very quickly while stopping the run. We are know that our dl was not that good this year which could have been the cause for our linebackers to play so poorly. If we don't get him I would want us to draft Branch. We desperately need a big fat run stopping dl to keep the o-lineman off of our lbs.
I was jus thinking the other day when Greg Williams was in Buffalo and was having one the best defenses in the league he had two fat defensive tackles in the middle of that line. (Pat Williams and Sam Adams) With these two dts there linebackers including safeties were able to stop the run at will along with there de to just rush the passer (ala carter and a fast speed rusher in the free agent pool).

[70Chip]

At DT we have Montgomery, Golston, Salavea, Griffin, and Evans? I don't think its a clear need area at this point. DE and CB are far more glaring.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

At DT we have Montgomery, Golston, Salavea, Griffin, and Evans? I don't think its a clear need area at this point. DE and CB are far more glaring.

Golston looked good for a rookie, but not necessarily starting material at this point. Montgomery hardly saw the field. Griffin is great when healthy, but is injured all too often. Salave'a was an average DT when he was healthy. While I highly doubt we'd ever go after Jenkins, I definately think we need help at DT.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

At DT we have Montgomery, Golston, Salavea, Griffin, and Evans? I don't think its a clear need area at this point. DE and CB are far more glaring.

all these are mediocre players at best (except Griffin). with a player like Branch, Jenkins or Hollis Thomas that would free up the double team off of others on the line which will cause more pressure and effectiveness of the secondary

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

all these are mediocre players at best (except Griffin). with a player like Branch, Jenkins or Hollis Thomas that would free up the double team off of others on the line which will cause more pressure and effectiveness of the secondary

You can say the same thing in reverse. If we had better ends and secondary it would take pressure of the middle. Defensive tackle is not the weak point of our defense. Not even close.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

You can say the same thing in reverse. If we had better ends and secondary it would take pressure of the middle. Defensive tackle is not the weak point of our defense. Not even close.

The problem is that we have holes everywhere on defense. I agree that we need better ends, but DTs are the heart and soul of a defense. They aren't as sexy as LBs or DEs as they don't get the stats, but if you can't get pressure in the middle your defense is going to suck (see Redskins 2006 defense). I saw a lot more pressure coming from the edges last season than I did up the gut.

[sportscurmudgeon]

When Kris Jenkins is healthy, he's one of the top 5 DTs in the NFL. He is so significantly better than any of the DTs on the current roster that it's not funny. In fact, I think he may be better than any DT the Skins have had for this entire milennium. Maybe the last DT the Skins had who was equal to Jenkins was Dave Butz?

The problem is that he has spent a lot of time on the sidelines with injuries. So, if the Skins were to sign him - and he will cost way more than a league minimum with incentives to get him signed - the whole thing could go south with another injury. Or, the Skins interior defensive line could get significantly better overnight if he stays in the lineup...

Alan Branch might become a premier DT in the NFL. Or he could become "Dan Wilkinson" who was also projected to be a monster on the DL for whomever was lucky enough to get him. That never quite materialized, did it?

Someone said the defensive line's major problem was age. I don't agree. I admit the defensive line is old, but more importantly, the defensive line is lacking in physical talent. That's harsh, I know. But what team in the league would trade their four defensive line starters for Carter, Griffen, Daniels and Salavea even up? Surely none of the teams in the playoffs... Yeah, I know these are great guys who fight their guts out every week, but the fact is that they don't get the job done most of the time.

Would I sign Kris Jenkins? Probably not at the price he would cost if he were out there on the free agent market. And to inherit his current contract, you'd have to trade for him and the price to acquire an All-Pro DT would not be cheap. He'd be a significant upgrade, but I think I'd have to pass on the opportunity.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Not intending to threadjack here, but since this thread started based on a rumored Kris Jenkins sighting in the suburbs here, Pete Carroll - yes, the USC coach - was in town tonight for the Wizards' game.

Is that an indication that he's being courted by the Skins to become the Associate Assistant Head Coach - Special Teams? The Skins don't have one of those yet...

Just asking.