Norv Turner Era: Success or Failure?

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Thanks.


Tell you the truth, I can't stand the Cowboys boards right now. No one is talking about the senior bowl/draft/Super Bowl.

it is all coaching all the time.

And I think that Coaching is the one area of Professional Football that the Fans know the least about. So much of what they do goes on behind the scenes.

And I don't care who you hire as the Defensive Coordinator it just doesn't put any sizzle into the off season for me.

Unless that guy is also going to play shutdown Free Safety....

I'm happy to be here where fans are talking about the Players for the most part.

Any way we can turn you against the evil empire that is the Dallas Cowboys? We'd love you to have you cheering for the burgandy and gold! Plus we've won more playoff games than the Cowboys have in the last ten years!

[5RINGS]

Originally Posted by ncskinsfanec

Any way we can turn you against the evil empire that is the Dallas Cowboys? We'd love you to have you cheering for the burgandy and gold! Plus we've won more playoff games than the Cowboys have in the last ten years!

Funny, Someone wrote that last year, 'come over from the evil empire'.

My reply was that you guys would not respect me if I switched teams.


The reply???







We don't respect you now!!!


It was funny at the time.

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Funny, Someone wrote that last year, 'come over from the evil empire'.

My reply was that you guys would not respect me if I switched teams.


The reply???







We don't respect you now!!!


It was funny at the time.

Sorry, about that. I should brush up on my history. Still, we've got an open spot for you to turn your life around!

[724Skinsfan]

I always felt that Norv was a very cerebral coach. He has a great offensive scheme and he knows it very well but whenever he didn't have the right players he didn't adjust very well. He didn't seem adaptable, to me.

[The Huddle]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

I always felt that Norv was a very cerebral coach. He has a great offensive scheme and he knows it very well but whenever he didn't have the right players he didn't adjust very well. He didn't seem adaptable, to me.

Let's throw out his last year when he was canned with 3 games left to go. It's still hard to see how anyone could qualify one playoff trip in six years as a success.

[5RINGS]

724Skinsfan

you have the funniest signature I have seen here in a long while.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by 5RINGS

724Skinsfan

you have the funniest signature I have seen here in a long while.

Thanks, that reminds me, I think I need to add to it.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

What I would worry most about is how he'll handle people like TO especially with the new offensive coordinator they just hired to call the plays. Wasn't Norv typically the offensive mind?

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

I remember thinking he sucked...but I was young. I also remember we always had a good offense and 0 defense. I hated Mike Nolan more than I hated Norv.

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

same here...I remember I couldn't even watch. It was Bret Conway I believe. He was practically standing on the logo when he was setting up. Even still, I thought we had set ourselves up pretty well for years to come. I don't blame Norv for what happened next year...that was all Snyder.

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

I remember thinking he sucked...but I was young. I also remember we always had a good offense and 0 defense. I hated Mike Nolan more than I hated Norv.

That second sentence you wrote sounds awfully familiar. Seems like there was a team this year that was very similiar.

[FRPLG]

I would say his mediocricy set the stage for our decent over the last decade. Turner is a nice guy. I have met him and spoke with him many times. His son played in the little league I coached. There is no questioning his character. He is also a rather good OC. We consistently had decent to above average offense under him even with less talent. Hell he won games with Gus Frerotte. But even the standup players ran roughshod over him. He is a weak manager and does not command respect. TO might actually eat him alive. If the Tuna couldn't take the TO show then I think hiring Turner will be what can only be called an unmitigated disaster. He has shown TWICE that he cannot adequately do the job. I find myself wondering what the hell Jones is thinking. Maybe he will see the light and not make the hire but I hope he doesn't.

[MTK]

Complete failure.

7 seasons, 1 playoff appearance, 49-59-1 record, any questions?

[redsk1]

In Norv's 7 years if we would have ever had a kicker we would have won 10 more games I bet and things would have turned out a little different for Norv. No question that he wasn't the best manager of people but he could run an offense.

We were in major rebuilding mode for a good bit of Norv's tenure here too. Due to bad drafting and FA's, it took awhile to win. Had Dan not blown up the team w/ the whole Jeff George debacle who knows??

So to say he was a complete failure is a bit much, as i would lay some blame around to others. JG's hasn't done much better in his second stint, so far.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Good to hear from you 5Rings (our resident classy Cowboys fan).

Unfortunately, I cannot utter "that coach's" name after the pain he put me through. I think that he is one of those guys that may be a good coordinator, but not the best HC. BTW, I don't count his track record in Oakland as he had nothing to work with beside as a--hole for an owner.