Patrick Kerney?

[SmootSmack]

You're going to be like the boy who cried wolf, Quake [NSFW] (is this you?). At some point, no matter how good the thread people are going to stop caring really. Just need to slow things down a bit.

That said, Kerney is someone I have wondered about since my dream of Justin Smith is firmly entrenched in the rearview mirror

[sportscurmudgeon]

There's another thread out there asking if the Skins should keep Wynn and Daniels next year. Here's an economic proposition:


Take the money that it will cost to keep Wynn and Daniels.

Subtract from that what it will cost to keep a rookie DL who is on the squad only to learn how to play the position.

Take the difference and see if that is enough to sign Patrick Kerney. If it is, do that in a heartbeat.


Kerney is better than either Daniels or Wynn at this point in their careers. My suspicion is it will take more than that to acquire his services...

[GTripp0012]

If we are looking to get a guy cheap, Tampa Bay DE Dewayne White is a bulky DE in the mold of a Wynn, but he's 26 and would come on the cheap (allowing us to cut either Daniels or Wynn for cap relief).

The D Line is going to be a multi year rebuilding project. Kerney probably doesn't fit into those plans, even if he is more talented than Daniels.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If we are looking to get a guy cheap, Tampa Bay DE Dewayne White is a bulky DE in the mold of a Wynn, but he's 26 and would come on the cheap (allowing us to cut either Daniels or Wynn for cap relief).

The D Line is going to be a multi year rebuilding project. Kerney probably doesn't fit into those plans, even if he is more talented than Daniels.

As odd as it may sound, I think our core D players are not THAT bad. We need one more LB, a good DT, S and CB. Maybe Rocky can become that good LB leaving the DT for the draft and FA for either the S or CB. Just that would significantly help our D.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by hooskins

As odd as it may sound, I think our core D players are not THAT bad. We need one more LB, a good DT, S and CB. Maybe Rocky can become that good LB leaving the DT for the draft and FA for either the S or CB. Just that would significantly help our D.

Well, our D Line is horrible. The arguement could be made that Carter has a future and Griffin has had a past, but you'd be hard pressed to milk that into a good line.

In the back seven, I agree that our personell needs just a bit of tweaking. With the signings of Fletcher and Clemons (if possible) we would be very strong and deep in both the secondary and the linebackers.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If we are looking to get a guy cheap, Tampa Bay DE Dewayne White is a bulky DE in the mold of a Wynn, but he's 26 and would come on the cheap (allowing us to cut either Daniels or Wynn for cap relief).

I don't know if White would come cheap. I like the guy, but I think other teams do too (pure speculation).

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If we are looking to get a guy cheap, Tampa Bay DE Dewayne White is a bulky DE in the mold of a Wynn, but he's 26 and would come on the cheap (allowing us to cut either Daniels or Wynn for cap relief).

The D Line is going to be a multi year rebuilding project. Kerney probably doesn't fit into those plans, even if he is more talented than Daniels.

I wish people would realize this. It's going to take time not only to rebuild the line, but the whole defense. We need DT, DE, MLB, FS, and a corner.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I wish people would realize this. It's going to take time not only to rebuild the line, but the whole defense. We need DT, DE, MLB, FS, and a corner.

Or just a SS who can play. Sean Taylor is a fine free safety. They just need someone who can actually let him play it. *cough* Ryan Clark *cough*

[dmek25]

simeion rice is after one thing, lots of money. and how old is kearney? lets use the draft to fill that hole

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by dmek25

simeion rice is after one thing, lots of money. and how old is kearney? lets use the draft to fill that hole

If the Andre Carter thing has taught us one thing it's that teams that ignore the ability of a DE to defend against the run in player eval will get gashed with it.

I still think that this Carter thing can work. But we have to be very careful to build the line around him adding some big guys with pass rushing ability in the middle, but without compromising our ability to stuff the run any further. This means no Simeon Rice's, no Dwight Freeney's, no guys who charge hard upfield and takes themselves out of running plays. We already have one guy who does that.

In my opinion, both Jamaal Anderson and Gaines Adams suffer from this kind of problem. They are both a little light in the ass, and having them and Carter on the field at the same time would be a nightmare. I'm would view either of them as a replacement for Carter not a bookend.

If we gave up on Archuleta, Lloyd, AND Carter in one offseason, the financial implications would be rediculous.

I want Branch first and foremost, and my second choice would be Okoye.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by dmek25

simeion rice is after one thing, lots of money. and how old is kearney? lets use the draft to fill that hole

I want a D-lineman with the first pick whether they keep #6 or trade down but I don't think Rice can command top dollar after last year. If he would agree to a reasonable incentive based contract, I think he is worth a shot. Then Carter could be moved to the other side where he might have more success.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I want a D-lineman with the first pick whether they keep #6 or trade down but I don't think Rice can command top dollar after last year. If he would agree to a reasonable incentive based contract, I think he is worth a shot. Then Carter could be moved to the other side where he might have more success.

why would moving carter to the other side give him a better chance at success? he was already playing the weakside

[RMSkins]

No thanks I rather have Dwayne White, but we will fill our DE void in the draft.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Patrick Kerney has decided to opt out of his contract making him an unresticted free agent would he fit in the redskins system he would be one of those non-high profile players that make a defense better and he wouldn't be really expensive and he could make the redskins trading their number 6 overall pick that much easier

He's 30 years old coming off a pretty serious injury. I know he's a good pass rusher but I wouldn't touch this guy. The risk outweighs the reward.

[SkinsFanSince91]

stop going after old muthafckas in the free agent market, and get some "financially responsible" picks via the draft!

All he will do is come here and underachieve. Just like every other expensive FA we get.