Do People Really watch The Academy Awards

[CrazyCanuck]

The Academy Awards is the Super Bowl for chicks.

[itvnetop]

Crash is a very polarizing movie... either hate it or love it.

Much like Napoleon Dynamite- I'm glad some people thought it was the funniest movie ever, but I'm still waiting to laugh.

As for the Oscars... they've always been a joke- political dancing for the sake of Hollywood elitism. But out of the nominees, I'm glad Departed won. Glad Scorsese got his... It's kind of unfair to compare his past work- Departed wasn't going against Raging Bull or Goodfellas... it was up against the likes of "The Queen", "Babel" and "LMS". I'm thinking the academy saw the kind of backlash it created when it gave BP to "Crash" last year and I think they went in a different direction with the choice this year.

The biggest travesty was giving Best Cinematography to "Pan's Labyrinth." While PL was a fine film, "Children of Men" did some stuff with the camera that absolutely blew me away.

[dmek25]

it always seems like the winners have either been around forever( like they are deserved an award) or the movie that wins, either sucks to high heaven, or i have never even heard of it. but i did like the departed. even though i don't think much of DiCaprio, he did a helluva job in that movie

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by dmek25

it always seems like the winners have either been around forever( like they are deserved an award) or the movie that wins, either sucks to high heaven, or i have never even heard of it. but i did like the departed. even though i don't think much of DiCaprio, he did a helluva job in that movie

I used to hate his guts but ever since Gangs of New york, he's played more gritty roles.

I only watch a small part of the awards if a certain person is being honored and if a certain actor, actress, or movie I like is up for an award.

[jamf]

I always watch for Salma Hayek, but she wasnt there

[brent]

The key question is whether anyone has ever seen any of the movies they actually give these silly awards to. I'd say by and large, my answer is "No" and when I have seen awarded movies in the past, its usually a regrettable experience.

The only reason to care about the academy awards last night is to see if the ground game attack of Cars would run rapshod over the poor run defense by the penguins of Happy Feet. But of course, the Cars coach kept calling passes and lost the game.

[djnemo65]

Haha, let me be clear. I didnt like Crash.

The problem I had with it was this: it perpetuates the racial stereotypes it is purporting to deconstruct by featuring characters who embody these stereotypes. The black gangster, the middle eastern shop owner, the racist cop, etc. Identity is multifaceted and complex, and I don't think the film's wriring is able to adequately demonstrate that. At the end of the movie, the characters still harbor their prejudices about each other, have not grown, and have learned nothing new; but more importantly, the audience has learned nothing new about their respective ethnic groups, other than that their preconceived prejudices were in fact correct.

Crash on the other hand is a film that features characters which, although from disparate ethnic and economic backgrounds, are complex and 3-dimensional. Even though these characters appear to embody the same type of stereotypes as Crash's characters - the Japanese schoolgirl, the immigrant maid, the arab peasant farmer, and the loud, culturally insensitive American tourist - all the characters, and particularily the female characters, are so compelling because of the ways in which they individuate from such cultural stereotypes. They are flawed, and sympathetic, and ultimately moving in a way that Crash's are not.

[PFunk26]

So I'm a moron for liking Crash? I don't believe in mocking people for liking certain movies. We all like some movies that other people think are turds, no need to call people out for liking a certain movie.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by PFunk26

So I'm a moron for liking Crash? I don't believe in mocking people for liking certain movies. We all like some movies that other people think are turds, no need to call people out for liking a certain movie.

That was hyperbole. Obviously some very smart people loved Crash. But state your case.... convince me I'm wrong.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

That was hyperbole. Obviously some very smart people loved Crash. But state your case.... convince me I'm wrong.

I think the point PFunk was making is that there is no right or wrong.

I mean Gmanc was moved by Uncle Jesse's haunting portrayal of a grieving relative remembering Papouli against the comparatively serene backdrop of a boat on cinderblocks, while I felt the chilling naivete of the well-meaning Michelle as she "cleansed" Martin the Goldfish with a bubble bath captured the deus ex machina that is the j ai no se quas of Full House.

We're both right...or wrong

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I think the point PFunk was making is that there is no right or wrong.

I mean Gmanc was moved by Uncle Jesse's haunting portrayal of a grieving relative remembering Papouli against the comparatively serene backdrop of a boat on cinderblocks, while I felt the chilling naivete of the well-meaning Michelle as she "cleansed" Martin the Goldfish with a bubble bath captured the deus ex machina that is the j ai no se quas of Full House.

We're both right...or wrong

Fair enough but that's why you debate it. It's fun, and sometimes you realize you were wrong and that a movie, or music CD, or athlete, or whatever is better than you gave it or them credit for. And sometimes you convince another person the same.　　Ａｎｄ　ｍｏｓｔ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅ　ｔｉｍｅ　ｙｏｕ　ｊｕｓｔ　ａｇｒｅｅ　ｔｏ　ｄｉｓａ ｇｒｅｅ． Isn't that what we do on this site? Argue, about stuff which there is ultimately no right or wrong answer to?

Obviously there exists differing opinions on Crash, just like there exists differing opinions on the long term viability of Carlos Rogers. I've got opinions on both, and this is one of the places I come to express them. What's the problem with that?

[SmootSmack]

No problem at all.

[That Guy]

i didn't like babel either.

mon oncle d'amerique is a good movie about psychology and interlocking lives though (1979)... of course it's all in french.

[PFunk26]

Fair enough, saying a movie is for morons just comes off as kinda harsh, and I find movie arguement to be a tough battle to fight, I've had many and never come out much better then they started so I usually just pass, and be happy with the movies I like although I have been enlightened a time or 12

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by PFunk26

Fair enough, saying a movie is for morons just comes off as kinda harsh, and I find movie arguement to be a tough battle to fight, I've had many and never come out much better then they started so I usually just pass, and be happy with the movies I like although I have been enlightened a time or 12

It does come off as kind of harsh. I didnt mean it that way