Does Size Matter?

hooskins · 04-11-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

HAHAH. HESS liiiikes CHOADS! LOL

Seriously, to not hijack this thread. I agree with the above. I think as long as someone can hold the point of attack, that's all that matters. Just because an offensive lineman is four hundred pounds doesn't make them any more effective at BLOCKING someone.

hahaaaa

GTripp0012 · 04-11-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NM Redskin

Dwight Freeney is only 6'1 268

Dwight Freeney also is especially bad at defending the run. He usually takes himself completely out of the play by rushing too far upfield.

If a smaller pass rusher still has the strength to go through a guy, as opposed to going around every time, he can be an effective pass rusher in this league.

If a guy doesn't have the strength to ever go through someone, even the most effective speed rushers can be negated by a smart QB who steps up in the pocket.

Crat92 · 04-11-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I would think it all depends on the kind of defense you're running. For us, I think we need a bigger line that can clog running lanes so the linebackers are more free to move around.

Exactly!

GTripp0012 · 04-11-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I would think it all depends on the kind of defense you're running. For us, I think we need a bigger line that can clog running lanes so the linebackers are more free to move around.

I think getting the best players always outweighs getting the biggest players, but a player can't be the best if he gets blown off the ball every play.

saden1 · 04-11-2007, 08:47 PM

Size matters not when talking about DE. There are exceptions of course. If a DE is 5'8" and 230lbs it most certainly does. I do think that a DE has to be at least 6ft/250lbs and quick. Pass rush is all about speed and stamina. In the trenches the first man out of his stance generally wins. As for run stopping abilities, you don't pay DE to be run stoppers. You pay them to rush the passer, slow down the rush and cover against sweeps and reverses.

If Adams is a baller we should by all mean draft him irrespective of his size.

GMScud · 04-11-2007, 08:54 PM

I think if you have strong linebackers it can take the sting off having a DE who may not be a run stuffer. If your LBs can step up and make tackles near the line of scrimmage you're in good shape. Sacks lead to turnovers and punts. Having good LBs and a 260lb DE who isn't great at run stop but can get 15 sacks- that's fine with me.

#56fanatic · 04-11-2007, 08:54 PM

In most cases I think bigger DE are more balanced and successful in all aspects of D play. (run and pass) there are some exceptions, but its not the rule. I would prefer bigger, stronger DE that can win the majority of the front line battles. I think it frees up the LBs and safeties to be more effective in run support and blitzing. If you have a big strong DE than can do both, that limits what the offensive unit can do. Most of the time the team will help that tackle with a TE.

But, I am a strong believer the DE are only as good at the DT. If one of the DT requires a double inside, then the DE should be one on one. I dont think our DT's were getting double teamed too much last year. Joe has regressed and Griff didn't have a stong 06 like he did in 05. I hope he bounces back this year. That will enable to Rookie (Okeye) to play like a beast in the middle.

skinsfan_nn · 04-11-2007, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

Well, let me tell all you boys the TRUTH. It DOES matter and girth is far more important than length!

I knew where this was headin. Darn....this thread went in the gutter guick.

hesscl34 · 04-13-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

I knew where this was headin. Darn....this thread went in the gutter guick.

No it did not. It was one silly comment.

Beer is Food · 04-13-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

Honest: Size Matters!!!!!

OK... please be a female... please be female.... please be female....

...not that there's any thing wrong with that...

hesscl34 · 04-13-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Beer is Food

OK... please be a female... please be female.... please be female....

...not that there's any thing wrong with that...

Yes, I'm a female... :cheeky-sm

FRPLG · 04-13-2007, 04:17 PM

Ole Hessy is as female as it gets baby!

skinsfan_nn · 04-13-2007, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

No it did not. It was one silly comment.

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oh pllllllzzzz

FRPLG · 04-13-2007, 04:42 PM

Why does everyone get in fights with Hess? Or is it the other way around?

12thMan · 04-13-2007, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Why does everyone get in fights with Hess? Or is it the other way around?

Everyone picks on Hess, you know that.

04-11-2007, 08:47 PM	#20
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Does Size Matter? Size matters not when talking about DE. There are exceptions of course. If a DE is 5'8" and 230lbs it most certainly does. I do think that a DE has to be at least 6ft/250lbs and quick. Pass rush is all about speed and stamina. In the trenches the first man out of his stance generally wins. As for run stopping abilities, you don't pay DE to be run stoppers. You pay them to rush the passer, slow down the rush and cover against sweeps and reverses. If Adams is a baller we should by all mean draft him irrespective of his size. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

04-11-2007, 08:54 PM	#21
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: Does Size Matter? I think if you have strong linebackers it can take the sting off having a DE who may not be a run stuffer. If your LBs can step up and make tackles near the line of scrimmage you're in good shape. Sacks lead to turnovers and punts. Having good LBs and a 260lb DE who isn't great at run stop but can get 15 sacks- that's fine with me. __________________ Tardy

04-11-2007, 08:54 PM	#22
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 50 Posts: 1,801	Re: Does Size Matter? In most cases I think bigger DE are more balanced and successful in all aspects of D play. (run and pass) there are some exceptions, but its not the rule. I would prefer bigger, stronger DE that can win the majority of the front line battles. I think it frees up the LBs and safeties to be more effective in run support and blitzing. If you have a big strong DE than can do both, that limits what the offensive unit can do. Most of the time the team will help that tackle with a TE. But, I am a strong believer the DE are only as good at the DT. If one of the DT requires a double inside, then the DE should be one on one. I dont think our DT's were getting double teamed too much last year. Joe has regressed and Griff didn't have a stong 06 like he did in 05. I hope he bounces back this year. That will enable to Rookie (Okeye) to play like a beast in the middle.

04-13-2007, 04:17 PM	#27
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Does Size Matter? Ole Hessy is as female as it gets baby!

04-13-2007, 04:42 PM	#29
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Does Size Matter? Why does everyone get in fights with Hess? Or is it the other way around?

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