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Old 12-02-2007, 07:19 PM   #1
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Re: Where was the blocking today?

Yeah, I am with the "O-Line didn't cut it." I am with SGG - we need some O-line draft picks.

I would go further. I think that the this season has been a testament to the lack of depth and youth on our line. Sure, there has been plenty of blame to go around, but I just haven't seen the push when we need it. Has our line ever really taken over a game when we need it? I posted earlier in the season (pre-season?) that our line was a concern going forward b/c of its age and lack of depth. Yes, it's been decimated by injuries and the loss of Dock was pretty big, but we have no real youth to step forward.

I think this is where all our trades and RFA signings have really hurt us. Those mid-rounders are where you find the depth and those were the ones we traded away.

<sigh> I know I am not saying anything new. I just am frustrated that a management team that built a championship through its o-line didn't see this coming. More than anything else, we need to build a championship line. After that, all else will follow. As for the D, I think we will be fine.

As far as I am concerned - if our draft consisted of 6 O-linemen I would not be dissatisfied (as long as we hit on 2 or three of of 'em).
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Old 12-02-2007, 07:24 PM   #2
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Yeah, I am with the "O-Line didn't cut it." I am with SGG - we need some O-line draft picks.

I would go further. I think that the this season has been a testament to the lack of depth and youth on our line. Sure, there has been plenty of blame to go around, but I just haven't seen the push when we need it. Has our line ever really taken over a game when we need it? I posted earlier in the season (pre-season?) that our line was a concern going forward b/c of its age and lack of depth. Yes, it's been decimated by injuries and the loss of Dock was pretty big, but we have no real youth to step forward.

I think this is where all our trades and RFA signings have really hurt us. Those mid-rounders are where you find the depth and those were the ones we traded away.

<sigh> I know I am not saying anything new. I just am frustrated that a management team that built a championship through its o-line didn't see this coming. More than anything else, we need to build a championship line. After that, all else will follow. As for the D, I think we will be fine.

As far as I am concerned - if our draft consisted of 6 O-linemen I would not be dissatisfied (as long as we hit on 2 or three of of 'em).

Good post. I agree that the trades have hurt our depth along the line. The coaches gambled that we'd stay relatively healthy and have the playmakers to make our offense explosive and our defense dominant. It was a reasonable gamble to make, it just turned out that the gamble didn't work this season. Then again, look at our secondary. We had the deepest secondary in the league and then we lost our #2 CB, FS, and our #1 and #3 CBs have been injured at various times during the season. Sometimes lady luck isn't so kind.
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Old 12-02-2007, 07:28 PM   #3
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Re: Where was the blocking today?

I expected a flat performance just like we saw, after the week the team went thru I didn't expect anything. The death of ST really has affected the team and fans, it's too hard to get motivated and fired up after such a loss.
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Old 12-02-2007, 07:36 PM   #4
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And to think that this all happened against a run defense ranked #23 in the league.

By the way, is the jumbo package really working anymore? During the Comcast Postgame show, Ray Brown said that it tends to bunch the defense together, when trying to spread them out might work better.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:50 PM   #5
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And to think that this all happened against a run defense ranked #23 in the league.

By the way, is the jumbo package really working anymore? During the Comcast Postgame show, Ray Brown said that it tends to bunch the defense together, when trying to spread them out might work better.
I totally agree with Ray, and I've been saying it for weeks. Our Jumbo package success inside the opponent's 10 yard line is pathetic. Beside that, Portis is much better suited to running with the field spread out. Until the O-line either gets healthy or adds better personnel, I'd just as soon see that package put on the shelf the rest of the season.
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:19 PM   #6
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Re: Where was the blocking today?

At least we'll see massive improvement with Randy on thursday...
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Old 12-02-2007, 09:31 PM   #7
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And to think that this all happened against a run defense ranked #23 in the league.

By the way, is the jumbo package really working anymore? During the Comcast Postgame show, Ray Brown said that it tends to bunch the defense together, when trying to spread them out might work better.
The Jumbo is wonderful when you can put a hat on a hat and drive them off the ball.

Frankly, it doesn't matter what formation we line up in. The Bills decided that one more guy than we could block was going in the box. Then we proceeded to leave guys unblocked and beat our heads against the wall until we bled to death.

You can't control how the defense is going to play you. But once they commit, you can control how you are going to beat them. Shitty, shitty job of making adjustments today.
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Old 12-02-2007, 09:38 PM   #8
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shitty, shitty job of making adjustments all season.
Fixed....
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:17 PM   #9
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The Jumbo is wonderful when you can put a hat on a hat and drive them off the ball.

Frankly, it doesn't matter what formation we line up in. The Bills decided that one more guy than we could block was going in the box. Then we proceeded to leave guys unblocked and beat our heads against the wall until we bled to death.

You can't control how the defense is going to play you. But once they commit, you can control how you are going to beat them. Shitty, shitty job of making adjustments today.
The jumbo stuff needs to be thrown out for now. Enough is enough. It's just not working and if something isn't working then make adjustments. Isn't that was NFL coaches are suppose to do?
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Old 12-02-2007, 09:26 PM   #10
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Re: Where was the blocking today?

Sellers being on the shelf certainly didn't help with blocking today.
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:04 PM   #11
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Sellers being on the shelf certainly didn't help with blocking today.
yeah I saw him missing the last 2 weeks as the biggest key to the pitiful run game cuz yoder and company have been completely unable to open up running lanes in his stead. plus he'd also have been another option for all of the 3rd/4th and short plays as well.
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Old 12-02-2007, 09:43 PM   #12
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Re: Where was the blocking today?

I've got to admit that the Jumbo package hasn't seemed to work so well for us. That said, I'm not sure if spread formations would do wonders for our running game. Aside from Thrash, are any of our wideouts any good at run-blocking?
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:27 PM   #13
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Re: Where was the blocking today?

Very dissappointed with the effort today....this one truly hurt. I thought bugel had brought these guys together. and portis......all you have to do is watch him
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:31 PM   #14
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Re: Where was the blocking today?

Where was the blocking today? AWOL I guess. With our ragtag group that has come in for injured starters, the emotions of the ST tragedy, etc., this group really struggled today and almost got our franchise QB creamed. Our D-line desperately needs a pass rusher, but now our O-line may be in need of some serious talent from the draft next year. I hope JC can survive the remainder of the season.
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Old 12-03-2007, 08:48 AM   #15
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Re: Where was the blocking today?

Did anyone get a tally of how many guys the Bills sent on almost every play? I swear it looked like 6-7 guys came after JC every time. Bad offensive line or not, the Bills gameplan was clearly to just attack the line all day long.

I'm a little surprised that Moss or McCardell weren't able to get open deep given the number of guys that were stacked on the line on almost every down.
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