Campbell's Shortcoming

[#56fanatic]

These debates about JC are getting a little old. The guy is essentially a rookie, playing in his first full season. Most if not all Rookie QB's make the same basic mistakes we see from Campbell. You will see those highlight plays and games that make him look like a probowler, but you will also see those games where he struggles. That is with all QB's in the NFL, even vets. Lets not keep throwing Jason under the bus with these things. He has struggled some this year, but has made plays to win games. Would we even be talking about this if we hadn't blown 5 4th quarter leads and be sitting 10-2 or 9-3? I dont think so.

[rstone1979]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

These debates about JC are getting a little old. The guy is essentially a rookie, playing in his first full season. Most if not all Rookie QB's make the same basic mistakes we see from Campbell. You will see those highlight plays and games that make him look like a probowler, but you will also see those games where he struggles. That is with all QB's in the NFL, even vets. Lets not keep throwing Jason under the bus with these things. He has struggled some this year, but has made plays to win games. Would we even be talking about this if we hadn't blown 5 4th quarter leads and be sitting 10-2 or 9-3? I dont think so.

No we wouldnt be talking about it at all. The only problem is in most of those loses he did get us into position to win but he also found a way to turn the ball over.

[SouperMeister]

Campbell will be fine. Give him experience and a better O-line, and you'll see him take the next step.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Campbell will be fine. Give him experience and a better O-line, and you'll see him take the next step.

Thank You I totally agree 100% he needs more experience and a better o-line badly.

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

Thank You I totally agree 100% he needs more experience and a better o-line badly.

and a more reliable receiver...moss drops too many big game passes..and randle el hasnt lived up to his super bowl hype.

[rstone1979]

I love Campbell and all I want is to see him succeed and think he will be a good qb but it is taking some time. I look at the worthless Tony Homo and wonder if Jason should be at that level being that he has had about the same amount of starts as Homo. I cannot stand Homo but I really wish that Campbell could have the success he is having. I would not in any way want Homo over Campbell but was wondering if he should be further along in his progression?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by rstone1979

I love Campbell and all I want is to see him succeed and think he will be a good qb but it is taking some time. I look at the worthless Tony Homo and wonder if Jason should be at that level being that he has had about the same amount of starts as Homo. I cannot stand Homo but I really wish that Campbell could have the success he is having. I would not in any way want Homo over Campbell but was wondering if he should be further along in his progression?

Romo is a 5 year vet, JC is in his 3rd year.

Some people here don't think that the two extra years on the bench gives Romo an advantage, but I say it definitely does.

[firstdown]

Our line play was really bad last Sunday but has not been all that bad this year even with all of our injuries. He has lost several fumbles where the defender would not have had a sack and just was able to knock the ball loose. he has had several fumbles while running and added another last week. Our team is averaging 2.33 fumbles per game thats 28 for the year and loosing 1.25 per game. Thats if I did the math right.
28 fumbles divided by 12 games=2.33
15 lost fumbles divided by 12 games=1.25

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Our line play was really bad last Sunday but has not been all that bad this year even with all of our injuries. He has lost several fumbles where the defender would not have had a sack and just was able to knock the ball loose. he has had several fumbles while running and added another last week. Our team is averaging 2.33 fumbles per game thats 28 for the year and loosing 1.25 per game. Thats if I did the math right.
28 fumbles divided by 12 games=2.33
15 lost fumbles divided by 12 games=1.25

As far as I'm concerned....Sunday was the worst i have seen the O-line play all season.... Campbell will be just fine..

[Cowell]

I know that ESPN and everyone else who covers the NFL drills this and makes such a big deal out of this but it is true... Tony Romo improvises and MAKES things happen. If his receivers aren't open and the pocket is collapsing you will never see Tony stand in there and take a hit. He moves around until someone gets open and he throws it. He has great football instincts. That is what makes him more successful than Campbell. I'm not saying Campbell is a better play but he just doesen't feel the pocket like Romo does. As for Tony's bench time compared to Jason's I don't think it matters much because Tony has a skill that can't really be coached.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Cowell

I know that ESPN and everyone else who covers the NFL drills this and makes such a big deal out of this but it is true... Tony Romo improvises and MAKES things happen. If his receivers aren't open and the pocket is collapsing you will never see Tony stand in there and take a hit. He moves around until someone gets open and he throws it. He has great football instincts. That is what makes him more successful than Campbell. I'm not saying Campbell is a better play but he just doesen't feel the pocket like Romo does. As for Tony's bench time compared to Jason's I don't think it matters much because Tony has a skill that can't really be coached.

Unfortunately, there only a couple of QB's in the NFL that are better than Romo right now. You're right, his mobility and his improvising makes him very tough to defend. Add that w/ good talent, maybe great talent around him and you've got yourself a dominant team.

[JWsleep]

I think a lot of this is a function of holding the ball too long. And that comes from being slow on his reads at times, and not just "Brunnelling" it out of bounds or underneath. That will improve. He's also got to secure the ball better as a matter of course, which he can be coached to do.

It'll come, IMO. But he's got to make an improvement there, as no doubt he knows. Time will tell.

[SFREDSKIN]

I recall back in I think 1989 Mark Rypien had the same problem and 2 years later he went on to win a SB!!! This can be fixed.

[WillH]

Im actually a little frustrated with Campbell, but I noticed during the game (and was wondering if anyone else caught this), I think it was during the second or third drive of the game, we were in the redzone and JC was back in the pocket...winding up, and a DE was putting his hand up to swat the ball from him, just like has happened so many times this season...but he pulled it down and ran for a few yards to set up third and six (I believe) rather then giving up a fumble. I was impressed by that, but then later in the game obviously he made a couple other mistakes, so we'll see, he's still developing, but so far he has left a lot to be desired.

[WillH]

BTW

I think most of the issue with fumbles is with the line. I know they are doing better then we would have expected considering how beat up they've been, but they are still pretty lousy, Portis cant run, Jason gets sacked quite a bit, and we havent completed any deep bpmbs for TDs all season nor have we taken many shots, and I think that the line is directly responsible. With better blocking we get a run game going, and JC has time in the pocket to throw down field. If we dont significantly upgrade the O-line next year I may not even watch them play.

OK of course I will, but I bet we'll see more of this same crap.