Al Saunders on the way out?

[dmek25]

i was one of the biggest Saunders bashers. but over the last quarter of the season, his offense started clicking. now, to keep continuity, he has almost got to stay if the skins are to be successful in 2008

[T.O.Killa]

If the Redskins are to be successfull, with Williams, they need Saunders. If they get rid of Saunders, we are 6-10 next year, and Williams is on the way out and Cohwer is in. It seemed to me, that after we lost to Buffalo, Joe Gibbs gave complete control to Saunders and the offense took off. I think this article is another case of JLC making totally inacurate statements. The more I think about last season, the more I think the JLC is wrong about Saunders. Last year, our defense was the problem and our offense was getting better. This year our offense started coming together, especialy after Collins took over. Furthemore, as the season progressed, Joe gave him more and more control. Throwing on 4-1, come on, Joe had complete trust in him. I would be stunned if they kept Williams and let Saunders go.

[QBall]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i was one of the biggest Saunders bashers. but over the last quarter of the season, his offense started clicking. now, to keep continuity, he has almost got to stay if the skins are to be successful in 2008

I agree. Didn't like him in 06' at all. This year it got better and towards the end was great. We needed Campbell in Seatle, Colling looked old.

Keep Al.

[Defensewins]

Al Saunders has never had control of the offense. It would be unfair of Snyder the football genius to blame Saunders for the redskins woes on offense. Gibbs controlled the offense play calling or at least had a heavy influence on what was called. Saunders never really ran 'his' offense. I hope this report is not true.

[SBXVII]

Be honest here. The Defense was the problem also. Are defense is predicatated on 3 and outs. If a team finds a way to move the ball we are screwed. The players either looked un-conditioned or maybe it's we hired smaller players for speed and they are getting no push and exhausted on long drives. I know we were 8th in the league but look at second half adjustments. Other teams made them GW did not. He lined up his men and said beat me. When we were getting beat he rarely made adjustments or atleast it looked like we did nothing. Fall into a zone and get beat everytime.

I like Saunders. His system works and is proven. Why does it not work here? Is it we have the wrong players for the system? Gibbs always liked big blocking linemen, does Saunders system require smaller faster linemen? Is it the blocking style? Gibbs always lined up his men and played mostly man to man blocking. Al's looks more like zone blocking similar to what Denver uses. If we stay in Al's offense we need a coulple of big WR. He needs total control. GW needs to get lineman who can get pressure up the middle.

I'm not sure who the best coach for the job is but I look at both sides of the ball and see a rusty old classic car with a dent in the door and needs 4 new tires. Yes, I know the dent can be pulled and the rust blasted off and the tires changed which leaves us with a pricless car worth alot but do we have the ability to do it?

[DiehardSkin88]

How was our defense the problem dumbass

[SFREDSKIN]

The only choices would be Cameron or Lazor and possibly Musgrave. Cameron was here with Norv before he worked for Marty and it's a Coryell type offense, forget Fassell he's a West Coast Offense type of guy. Musgrave also is a West Coast kind of guy but was here for a couple of years so maybe he learned something?

[DiehardSkin88]

I wouldnt mind promoting lazor to OC.. Granted he is un proven as being OC but he and JC have a great relationship and has been around for awhile and knows the players

[SBXVII]

Simply put...our defense dominates first half games. how many times did teams come back in the fourth quarter? thats called A D J U S T M E N T S. GW failed to do that a lot in the 4th quarter. Prevent sucks. Prevent, prevents you from winning.

[DiehardSkin88]

He was playing prevent mainly when sean taylor was playing because he knew that most teams wouldnt have the balls to throw it deep on them.. and when they did it would usually turn out bad for that team. Now, when he passed away greg williams completely changed his defense, becoming more pressure based.. forcing quarterbacks to make quick throws and make mistakes, which worked out very well for us down the stretch. I agree that it is partly our defenses fault for allowing teams tocome back. But, the same could be said for the offense, if the offense keeps going 3 and out then the defense is going to be on the field most of the game, which is what was happening to us losing those half time leads.

[DiehardSkin88]

You cant expect the defense to stop them everytime, without the offense putting the games away there is always a chance for the other team to come back.

[SBXVII]

I did not say it was only the defenses fault. Yes we were a 3 and out team also on offense. we need big WR's I said that. Someone to throw a ball up to in the end zone. We need to do something about our blocking. I said that also. I simply said GW needs to do something about the second half let downs and get better push up the middle. I also like Carter a lot but he was man handled in Seattle. Maybe it's just a couple of spots we need to fix but it's not all Saunders who is the problem is all I was saying.

[MTK]

I won't be surprised if Saunders gets dumped especially if GW takes over. Let's face it, other than the 4 game streak his offense was disappointing to say the least.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I won't be surprised if Saunders gets dumped especially if GW takes over. Let's face it, other than the 4 game streak his offense was disappointing to say the least.

That's not Saunders though. That's us not having a running game, or the ability to block for one.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

That's not Saunders though. That's us not having a running game, or the ability to block for one.

Regardless, he didn't do what he paid him to do. We paid him to put up a top flight offense and we got an inconsistent, mediocre one. It happened on his watch.