Does anyone feel as if the Redskins Organization is dismantling Joe Gibb's work?

[BigSKINBauer]

Originally Posted by redwagonskins

Isn't this Campbell's last year under contract?

I think he has one more season beyond this one. Maybe someone can confirm. But yeah, we will have to resign him. I think the coach coming in will have to be confident in Campbell and must like him. I don't want a coach coming in and not liking campbell and wanting to put a guy he drafts or signs in. I don't want a brunell/Ramsey situation again.

[redwagonskins]

5 year $20 Million Contract signed in 2005. So maybe he gets 2 years with the new OC.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

What exactly has Dan Snyder or Vinnie Cerrato said at any time during the last 17 days regarding the interview process? I've heard the media say quite a bit about some rumor that was overheard by an assistant to a friend who's cousin bought a Joe Gibbs hat at the tent sale yesterday.

Right now, unless I've missed something, the only facts are that Gibbs resigned and we've hired Zorn as our OC. Everything else is assumption brought about by the frustration of not having anything to report.

Some sanity! So hard to find these days

[goingdeep]

no because it going to be a new team next year cap 20millon over that why team and ch are getting change and start new.front of has no choice but to do this

[BigSKINBauer]

Originally Posted by goingdeep

no because it going to be a new team next year cap 20millon over that why team and ch are getting change and start new.front of has no choice but to do this

The team can easily make some moves and be under the cap. There is no such thing as cap hell for the redskins. It just always looks that way the way that the skins do their contracts. Really we won't have much trouble at all getting under the cap next year.

[Longtimefan]

If the current path of operation is continued then the answer to your question is a resounding yes.

It would apear to me it is the intent to remove all associated with Joe Gibbs, and a deeper look may reveal that the abrupt resignation of Gibbs may not have been all about the way it was spun in the media.

[MTK]

The second that Gibbs walked out the door at Redskins Park everything was up in the air. Let's face it, Gibbs was the glue that held this entire operation together. With him gone, Snyder needs to find people that he is comfortable and confident working with.

If Williams isn't his guy, fair enough. No matter what happens here I'm not going to play this silly blame game and assume Snyder and Cerrato are just hatching this evil plan to undo Gibbs' work. Gibbs' work came undone the second he stepped down. Once the staff is in place I really hope Snyder will explain what exactly went down in this process so we can get some answers straight from the source, rather than all this speculation because really that's all we're going on right now.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

I think he has one more season beyond this one. Maybe someone can confirm. But yeah, we will have to resign him. I think the coach coming in will have to be confident in Campbell and must like him. I don't want a coach coming in and not liking campbell and wanting to put a guy he drafts or signs in. I don't want a brunell/Ramsey situation again.

He is signed through 2009.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The second that Gibbs walked out the door at Redskins Park everything was up in the air. Let's face it, Gibbs was the glue that held this entire operation together. With him gone, Snyder needs to find people that he is comfortable and confident working with.

If Williams isn't his guy, fair enough. No matter what happens here I'm not going to play this silly blame game and assume Snyder and Cerrato are just hatching this evil plan to undo Gibbs' work. Gibbs' work came undone the second he stepped down. Once the staff is in place I really hope Snyder will explain what exactly went down in this process so we can get some answers straight from the source, rather than all this speculation because really that's all we're going on right now.

Anything coming out of Snyder's mouth at this point will be pure spin. At Gibbs's farewell press conference, Snyder preached continuity. Tell me how blowing up both the offensive and defensive coaching staffs lends itself to continuity?

On a different topic, we act as if there's no cap issue despite being $20M over at the moment. We ONLY don't have a problem if players like Portis, Moss, and others play ball, and renegotiate. With the presumed bloodbath on the coaching front, don't be surprised if more than just Springs pass on "helping" the Skins cap situation by renegotiating. If that comes to pass, we should expect several high profile cap casualties, further destroying the continuity that The Danny preached after Gibbs stepped down.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Anything coming out of Snyder's mouth at this point will be pure spin. At Gibbs's farewell press conference, Snyder preached continuity. Tell me how blowing up both the offensive and defensive coaching staffs lends itself to continuity?

On a different topic, we act as if there's no cap issue despite being $20M over at the moment. We ONLY don't have a problem if players like Portis, Moss, and others play ball, and renegotiate. With the presumed bloodbath on the coaching front, don't be surprised if more than just Springs pass on "helping" the Skins cap situation by renegotiating. If that comes to pass, we should expect several high profile cap casualties, further destroying the continuity that The Danny preached after Gibbs stepped down.

Interesting point, but it's not going to come to that. Restructuring is always in the players' benefit, money-wise. It's give-take for the team.

They'd have to want out REAL bad to not restructure.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Interesting point, but it's not going to come to that. Restructuring is always in the players' benefit, money-wise. It's give-take for the team.

They'd have to want out REAL bad to not restructure.

I agree that players benefit from restructuring, but let's use Portis as an example. I believe he is due somewhere around $5M in salary alone. If we convert that to a signing bonus, he has a guaranteed $5M in hand. I would argue that if he forced the Skins to cut him, he would certainly land more than $5M in SB as a free agent. He greatly helped his case by gaining 500+ yards from scrimmage over the final 4 games of the regular season. I'm not saying that he leaves, but Portis is an example of a top producer still young enough to demand a greater signing bonus in free agency than he could by restructuring.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Anything coming out of Snyder's mouth at this point will be pure spin. At Gibbs's farewell press conference, Snyder preached continuity. Tell me how blowing up both the offensive and defensive coaching staffs lends itself to continuity?

On a different topic, we act as if there's no cap issue despite being $20M over at the moment. We ONLY don't have a problem if players like Portis, Moss, and others play ball, and renegotiate. With the presumed bloodbath on the coaching front, don't be surprised if more than just Springs pass on "helping" the Skins cap situation by renegotiating. If that comes to pass, we should expect several high profile cap casualties, further destroying the continuity that The Danny preached after Gibbs stepped down.

So basically your mind is made up no matter what anyone says once the dust settles?

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The second that Gibbs walked out the door at Redskins Park everything was up in the air. Let's face it, Gibbs was the glue that held this entire operation together. With him gone, Snyder needs to find people that he is comfortable and confident working with.

If Williams isn't his guy, fair enough. No matter what happens here I'm not going to play this silly blame game and assume Snyder and Cerrato are just hatching this evil plan to undo Gibbs' work. Gibbs' work came undone the second he stepped down. Once the staff is in place I really hope Snyder will explain what exactly went down in this process so we can get some answers straight from the source, rather than all this speculation because really that's all we're going on right now.

You are absolutely correct, and that's why is has become apearent that everything associated with Joe Gibbs is in jepordy. Perhaps it would have been different had there been time to formulate a plan B ahead of time, but the departure of Gibbs was unexpected, therefore it shouldn't come as a suprise to anyone that changes will be forthcoming.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So basically your mind is made up no matter what anyone says once the dust settles?

My point is that Snyder preached continuity, but his actions don't line up with his words. If he comes back and says that we're trying to build on the foundation that Gibbs built, then yes, I'm saying that is spin.

I'm not a pure Snyder basher - look at my previous posts during the Gibbs tenure. I was one of the few defending Snyder for deferring to Gibbs on all personnel matters. I was also one of the few that blamed Gibbs for Archuleta, Lloyd, and Duckett, when many others wanted to pin those failures on Snyder and Ceratto.

What angers me, as Boswell put it so well, is that Snyder is razing the house down to the foundation for the FOURTH time this decade. If Jason Campbell ever becomes a great QB, it will have been in spite of all the organizational chaos, not because of it.

[skinsnut]

snyder stinks