Washington City Paper article on "The Redskins official fan message board"

[Lady Brave]

From what I've read of McKenna in the past, he definately has his own agenda when it comes to ES. This isn't the first time he's tried to pick a fight. The fact that he actually spends time writing such articles shows his ineptness as being taken as a serious journalist.

I'm not an ES apologist, but I do take issue with him calling out Om. McKenna's opinions about Om are baseless and without merit. There's good and bad things about ES. The idea that the mods are all yes men is far from the truth. The tirades from a lot of members over there, as of late, have been pretty hardcore and I've noticed no one has been banned because of it. It's the manner in which those opinions are expressed that the mods take issue with. Every board has rules. People are given ample warnings and when you don't follow the rules, you get banned. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

From what I've read of McKenna in the past, he definately has his own agenda when it comes to ES. This isn't the first time he's tried to pick a fight. The fact that he actually spends time writing such articles shows his ineptness as being taken as a serious journalist.

I'm not an ES apologist, but I do take issue with him calling out Om. McKenna's opinions about Om are baseless and without merit. There's good and bad things about ES. The idea that the mods are all yes men is far from the truth. The tirades from a lot of members over there, as of late, have been pretty hardcore and I've noticed no one has been banned because of it. It's the manner in which those opinions are expressed that the mods take issue with. Every board has rules. People are given ample warnings and when you don't follow the rules, you get banned. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.

I'll agree with the whole, "if you don't like it go elsewhere" thing... but I've butted heads with "om" on this site, over an article he posted on redskins.com that I commented on here. I didn't agree with him being able to post his view on fan behavior and opinion on the redskins team site. It's a place where rebuttals aren't posted and he can lump people in together that don't agree with his or the skins views and bash them publicly. Its not right.

[Lady Brave]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

I'll agree with the whole, "if you don't like it go elsewhere" thing... but I've butted heads with "om" on this site, over an article he posted on redskins.com that I commented on here. I didn't agree with him being able to post his view on fan behavior and opinion on the redskins team site. It's a place where rebuttals aren't posted and he can lump people in together that don't agree with his or the skins views and bash them publicly. Its not right.

Everything I said was based on my own perspective and experience. Take it for what it's worth.

If others have had a different experience with ES, then that's another argument all together. I was only addressing what McKenna had written. My guess is that he wrote it knowing the kind of drama it would create, thereby drawing in an audience he couldn't otherwise gain by writing something that is actually newsworthy.

[EternalEnigma21]

sure, I wasn't commenting on that at all, just saying that the "if you don't like it then leave" thing shouldn't exactly apply to Redskins.com, and the opinions of other fans. I've spoken with several people who don't visit any message boards at all, but go to redskins.com and read what is posted by fans and take it as if the redskins organization feels that way. You and I know (or assume) that his opinions are his own, but some get them confused with the feeling of team officials, as if they're sitting there sending messages to the fans on the site.

[Lady Brave]

I see your point about getting the two confused. It's usually noted that the columns Mark submits are written as a "fan view" and linked to ES.

I think overall he does a good job of capturing the mood and sentiments of most of the fans, depending on whatever situation the Redskins are in at the time. I actually like the fact that the organization chooses to showcase his work. However, I could see those that have a dissenting opinion taking issue that he speaks for everyone or for the organization.

I think most people realize that the opinions Mark expresses are not endorsed by the team, but it might be to their benefit to include a disclaimer in his articles.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

I see your point about getting the two confused. It's usually noted that the columns Mark submits are written as a "fan view" and linked to ES.

I think overall he does a good job of capturing the mood and sentiments of most of the fans, depending on whatever situation the Redskins are in at the time. I actually like the fact that the organization chooses to showcase his work. However, I could see those that have a dissenting opinion taking issue that he speaks for everyone or for the organization.

I think most people realize that the opinions Mark expresses are not endorsed by the team, but it might be to their benefit to include a disclaimer in his articles.

in the military, you're not really allowed to comment on anything in uniform, because, even though you're an individual with a right to your own views, being in uniform makes it too easy to confuse personal views with those of the military itself... they're generally pretty strick on that too.

same thing. an article linked to by the redskins or posted on redskins.com is much easier to confuse as team gospel.


and ES is the reason we no longer have camp access... while they were busy bragging about being the first website to have press passes to training camp, we'd already had a guy doing it for two years... and they're the reason we don't now.

they don't seem reasonable (again, for the most part) and luckily they don't come here often. they tend to be a lot more courteous here than on ES though. Om's probably one of the better ones, but it's stupid that he's allowed to insult whoever and can't take it in return, or that he feels a need to undermine legitimate conversations for no good reason.

and it's REALLY hard to argue that those guys AREN'T bought sitting in the press box and getting free trips to every game. If they didn't want the heat for that, they shouldn't have signed the deal.

[Schneed10]

Who cares about Extremeskins??

That board sucks balls.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Who cares about Extremeskins??

That board sucks balls.

I'll never forgive those mangina mods for coming over to our board and badmouthing the legendary Joe Crisp. No amount of access and no number of presspasses can change they the fact that they are cocky cocks.

[Lady Brave]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

I'll never forgive those mangina mods for coming over to our board and badmouthing the legendary Joe Crisp. No amount of access and no number of presspasses can change they the fact that they are cocky cocks.

Was that just one mod or all of them? Granted, I wasn't here when that went down, but I read the thread. Only one of them chose to be antagonistic from what I recall.

With respect to the OP, nothing good will come of this thread. If people get their jollies from bashing other Redskins boards, then so be it. I personally don't see the point and I think there are better things right now to talk about.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

Was that just one mod or all of them? Granted, I wasn't here when that went down, but I read the thread. Only one of them chose to be antagonistic from what I recall.

With respect to the OP, nothing good will come of this thread. If people get their jollies from bashing other Redskins boards, then so be it. I personally don't see the point and I think there are better things right now to talk about.

It was all of them, and they also printed compromising pictures of SGC and tax records linking Matty and this site to the Russian Mafia. Ooh, I just hate those guys.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Who cares about Extremeskins??

That board sucks balls.

And how. Although, I don't suspect the mods here would behave differently if they were lounging around the team hotel the night before the game. I KNOW I wouldn't. I'd be defending Snyder like Perry Mason on crystal meth.

[jsarno]

Isn't that the site with the "funky bunch" dancers as mods?

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Isn't that the site with the "funky 4" dancers as mods?

nope. that's http://hailredskins.com.

As far as being the OP, my intent was to show what was written and to see what others thought. I find it amusing that both the writer and the ES mod would stoop to such childish nonsense on a blog merely to see who's unit is bigger.

[QBall]

Yeah but I have heard people getting tossed off of the Warpath the same way.......

[MTK]

Originally Posted by QBall

Yeah but I have heard people getting tossed off of the Warpath the same way.......

You heard wrong.