Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

[skinsfan69]

Coles is a crybaby. Always has been and always will be.

[SBXVII]

Poor Coles. I liked him as a Redskin. I think he needed a good Doc. to fix his toe and stay off of it. In any event, didn't he leave the team bad mouthing the owner and organization? Didn't he say something along the lines of " I should never have left the Jets" also. Have fun Coles enjoy the team you should have never left.

[hagams]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Poor Coles. I liked him as a Redskin. I think he needed a good Doc. to fix his toe and stay off of it. In any event, didn't he leave the team bad mouthing the owner and organization? Didn't he say something along the lines of " I should never have left the Jets" also. Have fun Coles enjoy the team you should have never left.

Poor-Coles-My-Ass. This guy is a bum. He doesn't deserve Brandon Lloyd money, wait....neither did Lloyd.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by hagams

Poor-Coles-My-Ass. This guy is a bum. He doesn't deserve Brandon Lloyd money, wait....neither did Lloyd.

That's a lame response. A bum? Did you really compare him to Brandon Lloyd? Do you watch football?

Over the past three seasons Coles has 219 catches, 2589 yards, and 17 touchdowns. That's an average of 73 catches, 863 yards, and about 6 TDs a year. Are those "bum" numbers? He played hurt in all of '07 (no doubt he's tougher than Santana the Hammy), and is one season removed from a 91 catch 1100 yard campaign in '06 when he was healthy with a steady QB.

Over that same span, Santana has 200 catches, 3081 yards, and 18 TDs. Almost identical, although Moss has barely eclipsed 800 yards receiving since his stellar '05 season.

Regardless, they have almost identical numbers since swapping teams, although overall the past two seasons Coles has clearly outplayed Moss, in yards, catches, and touchdowns. So is Moss a "bum" then too?

I don't know why this is so hard for everyone to see. He was made to believe something by the Jets front office, and now they're clearly reneging on whatever it was. Is this so hard to believe after what they did to Pete Kendall? Hell, we were direct recipients of the deceit of the Jets FO in that case. Coles isn't pulling a Latrell Sprewell here. He's simply saying he was assured something, and has given enough to the Jets over the past three years to earn what they promised him.

So he wasn't happy in Washington. I guess that automatically makes him a bad guy and we should trash him, right?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by GMScud

That's a lame response. A bum? Did you really compare him to Brandon Lloyd? Do you watch football?

Over the past three seasons Coles has 219 catches, 2589 yards, and 17 touchdowns. That's an average of 73 catches, 863 yards, and about 6 TDs a year. Are those "bum" numbers? He played hurt in all of '07 (no doubt he's tougher than Santana the Hammy), and is one season removed from a 91 catch 1100 yard campaign in '06 when he was healthy with a steady QB.

Over that same span, Santana has 200 catches, 3081 yards, and 18 TDs. Almost identical, although Moss has barely eclipsed 800 yards receiving since his stellar '05 season.

Regardless, they have almost identical numbers since swapping teams, although overall the past two seasons Coles has clearly outplayed Moss, in yards, catches, and touchdowns. So is Moss a "bum" then too?

I don't know why this is so hard for everyone to see. He was made to believe something by the Jets front office, and now they're clearly reneging on whatever it was. Is this so hard to believe after what they did to Pete Kendall? Hell, we were direct recipients of the deceit of the Jets FO in that case. Coles isn't pulling a Latrell Sprewell here. He's simply saying he was assured something, and has given enough to the Jets over the past three years to earn what they promised him.

So he wasn't happy in Washington. I guess that automatically makes him a bad guy and we should trash him, right?

Maybe Coles assumed that when the Jets said they would take care of him he was thinking contract extension and the Jets where thinking guaranteeing his money. We do not know and we only have Coles side of the story but his history tells us something. Jets gave him his chance, he bolted for more money, skins gave him more money, he did not get the catches so he bolts again. Both times ragging on the team he left. Coles has talent but it seems he wants every thing his way and if that does not happen then he complains.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Maybe Coles assumed that when the Jets said they would take care of him he was thinking contract extension and the Jets where thinking guaranteeing his money. We do not know and we only have Coles side of the story but his history tells us something. Jets gave him his chance, he bolted for more money, skins gave him more money, he did not get the catches so he bolts again. Both times ragging on the team he left. Coles has talent but it seems he wants every thing his way and if that does not happen then he complains.

What you're saying is true. Coles kind of has set his own precedent. But so did the Jets with the Pete Kendall thing. Coles said he wants to know where he's going to spend the rest of his career. To me that means he was promised an extension, not just guaranteed money. Whatever. No one will ever know. Coles is a complainer but he sure as hell doesn't slack on the field. Based on the Kendall thing, I kind of believe Coles.

[birdz4gibbs]

i,ve heard babies cry louder than this...come on coles......and you make how much $.

whatever.........

[MTK]

Coles is always the victim.

[Dirtbag59]

While I agree that the "crybaby" comments are relevant to the situation the fact remains that its slightly inappropriate. Coles was molested for 3 three years by his stepfather, so in theory speaking out against what Coles feels is wrong is actually a healthy thing.

I seriously doubt that you were alluding to this Matty but let it be known for everyone else that bashes Coles and calls him a "crybaby" that the guys been through a lot throughout his life.

Personal

In September of 2005, Coles disclosed in a New York Times interview that he was molested by his stepfather between the ages of 10 to 13. Eventually the court became involved and American football was a refuge for him throughout his pain. Coles stated that he came forward because "Even if it's one kid who I can touch, who my story gives him the strength to come out and say something, I feel like it's worth it." On October 18, 2005, his story was aired on The Oprah Winfrey Show.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

While I agree that the "crybaby" comments are relevant to the situation the fact remains that its slightly inappropriate. Coles was molested for 3 three years by his stepfather, so in theory speaking out against what Coles feels is wrong is actually a healthy thing.

I seriously doubt that you were alluding to this Matty but let it be known for everyone else that bashes Coles and calls him a "crybaby" that the guys been through a lot throughout his life.

Personal

In September of 2005, Coles disclosed in a New York Times interview that he was molested by his stepfather between the ages of 10 to 13. Eventually the court became involved and American football was a refuge for him throughout his pain. Coles stated that he came forward because "Even if it's one kid who I can touch, who my story gives him the strength to come out and say something, I feel like it's worth it." On October 18, 2005, his story was aired on The Oprah Winfrey Show.

I saw that show and I'm sorry I did'nt believe him ,Look I don't take that sort of thing lightly it's a very serouse thing and I heard what he said just sometimes things just don't sound right IMHO.

[SmootSmack]

I think just about all of us, at least all of us that have been here the last several years, are familiar with what Coles went through as a child. And it's a horrible thing. But I have no doubt Matty was speaking about his attitude as a football player only.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But I have no doubt Matty was speaking about his attitude as a football player only.

I know, as I stated before I doubt that Matty was alluding to that. I just think that if anyone has right to bitch and complain its Coles. Anyway looking back quoting anyone and then writing that post was a bad idea. Breath-think-post. Anyway I edited it now so water under the bridge.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I know, as I stated before I doubt that Matty was alluding to that. I just think that if anyone has right to bitch and complain its Coles.

Interesting. I would tend to disagree, but interesting nonetheless.

[MTK]

I'm well aware of his personal stuff and my comment was in no way related to that.

[BrudLee]

Laveranues has a tragic past. He creates for himself a tragic present. A cadre of therapists would argue as to whether there is a connection.

The point of the original post was to remind Redskins fans who thought Coles got run out of town of the fact that Coles has created his own professional atmosphere, and when things happen to him it isn't in a vacuum. I wasn't trying to bestow upon him victim status.