Thoughts after minicamp?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

I suppose winning the last 4 games of the regular season to go to the playoffs in 2 different seasons is also boring...and maybe downing the ball 3 consecutive snaps in a row to cement a victory is boring too.

Gibbs conserves wins. He got us in the playoffs twice in 4 years. Every coach since Gibbs 1.0 has only put us in the playoffs once in 12 years.



Boring or not, making the playoffs is exciting.

I'm a Gibbs fan but if our D was not ranked in the top 10 those years our O could not have carried this team to any playoff game. You can blame the QB the coach who ever you want but our O was the drag on this team 4 years in a row and the D one year.

[SeanTaylor21]

NFL Photos: 2008 Minicamps - Washington Redskins

Not really thoughts about minicamp, but I just wanted people to see pics from minicamp, and pic 15/21 is a nice looking pic with ARE on the left, Santana in the middle, and Malcolm Kelly on the right.

[doman29@hotmail.com]

I Think Our Defense Will Be In The Top 10 Maybe Even Top 5

[heybigstar]

Originally Posted by doman29@hotmail.com

I Think Our Defense Will Be In The Top 10 Maybe Even Top 5

Hey man, not going to fault you for optimism... If our defense is that good, we should def. be in the playoffs..

While I think we have enough playmakers in our secondary (I think Landry is going to be a pro bowl starter this year), our front 7 could give be in trouble due to age and injuries.

[JWsleep]

I like the vibe, though this is the honeymoon period, no doubt. But, like most folks, I was very taken with Zorn's style. He's got a unique way about him. I can see why he's a rising star in the coaching ranks, though this is a big transition. (BTW, didn't Andy Reid go from QBs to head coach, after being under Holmgren? Just a thought...) There is no doubt that Zorn is a great teacher, and he also really seems to get into the details. How he'll be calling plays and making the big decisions, we'll see.

As for the offense, I think the transition will be quicker. We're keeping a fair bit of our run scheme, plus CP thrives in this kind of spread offense (or he did...). And JC had his best year in this kind of system, and we saw that he did well with the cuffs off in the no-huddle last year. The timing and all will be tougher, but it's not like it's a 700 page playbook or anything

On the D, I think we'll be pretty good, but I agree that injuries are a big concern. We're going to need at least one Antonio Pierce type story, or maybe two, I think, to get through this year. Let's hope that some no-name blue collar guys step up and help. But LL looks strong, and London will have em all in the right places at least. We'll see.

I hope it starts quick, but if it doesn't, I hope Danny and Vinny (and the more volatile members of this board) stick with Zorn and let him develop. Rome wasn't built in a day or even a season. 2.5-3 seasons at least IMO, but that's rare indeed in today's NFL.

Is it time for training camp yet???

[riggins44]

Depth on the OL and defense worries me the most right now. I think we can have a good year if we avoid the injury bug.

I see the offense putting more points on the board and taking some pressure off the defense. Honestly believe Blache is going to surprise everyone. I see us having a top ten D this year. Blache is no slouch. The Bears had a stout D under his guidance.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by riggins44

Depth on the OL and defense worries me the most right now. I think we can have a good year if we avoid the injury bug.

I see the offense putting more points on the board and taking some pressure off the defense. Honestly believe Blache is going to surprise everyone. I see us having a top ten D this year. Blache is no slouch. The Bears had a stout D under his guidance.

On the contrary, I think depth on the O-Line is great. Right now I'd give it a B+. I mean obviously no one has a problem with the five guys expected to start, though I'm pretty sure most would like to see Rhinehart take over for Kendall. Keary Brown is going to be a very good guard in his own right, and might just end up being this years version of Stephon Heyer. Which brings up Heyer who did a pretty good job filling in for Jansen last year, and on top of that the coaching staff is comfortable with him being the primary backup for Samuals, which worries me a little but I'll take it.

Fabini played decently last year, though at times it seemed like touch and go. And with that said I'd say the O-Line is pretty much set for this year.

Obviously though I agree with you that our D-Line is an area of concern, and personally I wouldn't be worried so much if they had a little more depth at linebacker, as I've become convinced our defense relys heavily on the play of our linebackers, and with one very good backup for two injury prone guys I'd say theres need for concern.

[GhostSkins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

On the contrary, I think depth on the O-Line is great. Right now I'd give it a B+. I mean obviously no one has a problem with the five guys expected to start, though I'm pretty sure most would like to see Rhinehart take over for Kendall. Keary Brown is going to be a very good guard in his own right, and might just end up being this years version of Stephon Heyer. Which brings up Heyer who did a pretty good job filling in for Jansen last year, and on top of that the coaching staff is comfortable with him being the primary backup for Samuals, which worries me a little but I'll take it.

Fabini played decently last year, though at times it seemed like touch and go. And with that said I'd say the O-Line is pretty much set for this year.

Obviously though I agree with you that our D-Line is an area of concern, and personally I wouldn't be worried so much if they had a little more depth at linebacker, as I've become convinced our defense relys heavily on the play of our linebackers, and with one very good backup for two injury prone guys I'd say theres need for concern.

Good point on the O-Line depth, and that does not even account for the fact that Lorenzo Alexander might be used as O-Line depth also giving us plenty of young depth on the O-Line. Anyone heard anything about which side of the ball they plan on using Alexander? Or is he to be the 300 pound human ping pong ball again?

[skinsqc]

i agree.There going to use portis like philly does westbrook get him the ball in open space.The years of using safety to spy on cp are over.1500 yards rushing,1000 yds receiving.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsqc

i agree.There going to use portis like philly does westbrook get him the ball in open space.The years of using safety to spy on cp are over.1500 yards rushing,1000 yds receiving.

Lets not get crazy here okay. We didnt just draft 2 WR to have CP get 1,000 recieving yards.

[SmootSmack]

Speaking of OL depth, did anyone else notice this in the Washington Times?

"Longtime right tackle Jon Jansen, recovering from a broken right leg that ended his 2007 season in the first half of the opener, will receive some work at center, where the Redskins don't have a true backup to Casey Rabach since they didn't re-sign Mike Pucillo."

Punter Frost ready for test - - Breaking News, Political News & National Security News - The Washington Times

I can't picture Jansen at C

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Speaking of OL depth, did anyone else notice this in the Washington Times?

"Longtime right tackle Jon Jansen, recovering from a broken right leg that ended his 2007 season in the first half of the opener, will receive some work at center, where the Redskins don't have a true backup to Casey Rabach since they didn't re-sign Mike Pucillo."

Punter Frost ready for test - - Breaking News, Political News & National Security News - The Washington Times

I can't picture Jansen at C

Saw that. It's a worry. We're going to pick up vet after the cuts, I bet. (At vet min, of course...).

[skinsfan69]

I also noticed Don Breux in the backround in one of the pictures. Does anyone know what the hell he does?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I also noticed Don Breux in the backround in one of the pictures. Does anyone know what the hell he does?

I think he's offensive quality control or some BS like that.

I was disappointed to see that DE Dotson from Oklahoma was released. I thought he had a shot. Hopefully he got an idea of what we're looking for in a DE, does some work over the summer, and get a camp invite.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I also noticed Don Breux in the backround in one of the pictures. Does anyone know what the hell he does?

He's a scout for the team now. Advance scout to be more specific