Judge Sides With Redskins in Team Name Suit

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Jacobylookalike

RE: SC Skins Fan;456632

Thank god there is a person of intelligence and rational thought out there. Most of the morons who post on this site cite a procedural ruling as vindication for just cause. 'Hell, YA!' 'were right because they filed too late!'

Regardless of whether the team name is racist, it is, there seems to be a point to the longevity of the trademark that mums the overt in racism. I suggest change the spelling of the name to Wredskins and change the logo away from the war chief head. Even the Neanderthals can understand this.

I encourage you to engage in a thoughtful debate because you may find this place worth visiting routinely if you do. But until you do, I could care less if we never hear from you again.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Jacobylookalike

Regardless of whether the team name is racist, it is, there seems to be a point to the longevity of the trademark that mums the overt in racism. I suggest change the spelling of the name to Wredskins and change the logo away from the war chief head. Even the Neanderthals can understand this.

I'm glad you cleared things up for us. Maybe one day we can all have intelligence and use rational thought like you (like having a 2nd post to a message board be one calling a majority of the members morons and neanderthals).

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Jacobylookalike

RE: SC Skins Fan;456632

Thank god there is a person of intelligence and rational thought out there. Most of the morons who post on this site cite a procedural ruling as vindication for just cause. 'Hell, YA!' 'were right because they filed too late!'

Regardless of whether the team name is racist, it is, there seems to be a point to the longevity of the trademark that mums the overt in racism. I suggest change the spelling of the name to Wredskins and change the logo away from the war chief head. Even the Neanderthals can understand this.

How is the use of the name Redskin racist? Maybe offensive! I guess I'm one of the morons that your speaking about.

[Jamaican'Skin]

Thought this was a non issue. Seems pretty silly to me

[skinsfan_nn]

This shit is way old! Get the Fck over it! How bout them REDSKINS!

[Riggo44]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

This shit is way old! Get the Fck over it! How bout them REDSKINS!

No kidding..... When will they give up?

[Riggo44]

The basketball team for the University of Northern Colorado calls themselves the Fightin' Whites. Personally I think it's pretty funny.





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[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

The basketball team for the University of Northern Colorado calls themselves the Fightin' Whites. Personally I think it's pretty funny.





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I'm pretty sure that's not the school's official mascot. I think I've read that it's a club team made up of Native American players.
Fighting Whites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

The basketball team for the University of Northern Colorado calls themselves the Fightin' Whites. Personally I think it's pretty funny.





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That has Daseal written all over it. LOL

[firstdown]

I watched a show on this subject a year or so ago and it just did not seem like it was that big of an issue. This one lady on the show was trying to hold a protest out side of the RFK back some years ago. They showed her doing all of this planning and calling of Native Americans to come out and support the cause. They then showed her protest at the game and it was just her and her two children. So that tells me it must not be that big of a concern. Where do all of these people who protest stuff get the time to do them and work?

[rypper11]

It's not that the term "redskin" is offensive as much as it is another example of the majority using the culture of a minority for profit without comprehension of it's meaning. Putting on headdresses, doing a tomahawk chop while chanting or calling oneself a "brave" is rude and demeaning. However, is it any more so than suburban kids listening to rap music? The difference is that Johnny lives in a cul-de-sac while promoting himself as a straight up gangsta with all of the vernacular and actions associated with another culture every day while he is spending his parents money and giving it to the industry that is fed off of his ignorance and stupidity. Our money goes to the NFL and Snyder, not an American Indian.
As long as mainstream news can and do use a racist term like "Indian Summer" to describe those untrustworthy and sneaky days of heat, I'll wear my Redskins shirt with pride and lament the day that Wanchese and Manteo welcomed a boat of Europeans into this land.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by rypper11

It's not that the term "redskin" is offensive as much as it is another example of the majority using the culture of a minority for profit without comprehension of it's meaning. Putting on headdresses, doing a tomahawk chop while chanting or calling oneself a "brave" is rude and demeaning.

From the poll Schneed posted earlier, 90% of Native Americans do not find the Redskins name offensive, which would include "rude & demeaning". I believe that percentage probably holds true for "braves" or "fighting Sioux" or Seminoles".

Not sure in this case how the majority is using the minority for profit, these teams could chose any other name/mascot with little effect on their profitability. They would actually see short term profit gains by changing their name/mascot in a spike of new jerseys, hats, t-shirts sales.

The "majority" is not the only group concerned with profits. If you have any knowledge of government contracting or Native American casinos, you will find that there are several government programs that give specific advantage to Native Americans in these areas and Native Americans are certainly taking advantage of them, for a great deal of profits. (Profits are not a bad thing, no matter if it is the "majority" or "minority" making them)

As for the meaning, most on this site know the history of the team name (from the article):
"The franchise began in Boston as the Braves but was purchased in 1932 by George Preston Marshall, who changed the name to honor head coach William “Lone Star” Dietz, an American Indian. The team kept its monicker after moving to the nation’s capital in 1937."
Not sure how this is rude or demeaning or "using the minority for a profit".

However, is it any more so than suburban kids listening to rap music? The difference is that Johnny lives in a cul-de-sac while promoting himself as a straight up gangsta with all of the vernacular and actions associated with another culture every day while he is spending his parents money and giving it to the industry that is fed off of his ignorance and stupidity.

Are you saying that suburban kids who listen to rap are ignorant & stupid? Or that their behavior is "rude & demeaning?" Whatever you're saying, I'm sure the rap artists and record labels sure appreciate the behavior....all the way to the bank.

[rypper11]

Are you saying that suburban kids who listen to rap are ignorant & stupid? Or that their behavior is "rude & demeaning?" Whatever you're saying, I'm sure the rap artists and record labels sure appreciate the behavior....all the way to the bank.[/quote]
That is exactly what my point was. If an American Indian had any ownership of any of the sales and they were benefiting from the mascots, I think there would be no problem at all. That was my attempt at comparing the two.

[jgalecpa]

Originally Posted by rypper11

If an American Indian had any ownership of any of the sales and they were benefiting from the mascots, I think there would be no problem at all.

Following the death of JKC, the skins were put up for sale.

If it were such a big deal, how come there were no casino owning tribes that stepped up to bid?

They could've changed the name themselves.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by jgalecpa

Following the death of JKC, the skins were put up for sale.

If it were such a big deal, how come there were no casino owning tribes that stepped up to bid?

They could've changed the name themselves.

For some reason, I'm thinking that casino owners wouldn't have $800 million...