It's time to sit Coles...

illdefined · 08-23-2004, 02:13 PM

more reason to hold back Portis while finding out who the #2 would be. i think Portis could run behind practically any OLine...

while we know how good Coles is, we don't know how good Brunell or Ramsey are quite yet (at least i hope we don't), much less Coles and them together. we really gotta chuck it more this preseason, even if its not gonna be the breadn'butter in the regular season.

SkinsRock · 08-23-2004, 03:42 PM

He shouldn't be going across the middle like he's been, but I do agree that he should play. He should NOT have gone back in after that hit though!
On the other hand, if he's only in for 1-2 series, he'll likely only get a couple catches at most. Is that really gonna make that much of a difference with the QB/WR chemistry??? Just playing devils advocate....

Big C · 08-23-2004, 03:55 PM

hes our deep threat, and gardner is our over the middle guy. lets try that in the preseason and utilize that speed, while keepin hijm from the linebackers

SKINSnCANES · 08-23-2004, 05:27 PM

Portis got smacked and flipped up twice on that drive. I definitly felt my heart skip both of those times, and when coles got hit hard.

Daseal · 08-23-2004, 06:35 PM

WOAH WOAH WOAH! Make up your minds guys! In another thread we don't need to work on the passing game because they do that in practice, but now it's of the utmost importance Coles is out there.

Coles is an idiot. Simply said. He needed surgery during the offseason but he skipped it for the Pro Bowl. I'm sorry, but the Pro Bowl is useless. I have nothing against him playing a few reps in pre-season, but stop taking him across the middle to get pounded. Let him go 1v1 on the outside with someone.

That Guy · 08-23-2004, 07:28 PM

coles will bang his head into a wall until he's dead if you ask him to... he'll never volunteer to leave unless his leg has dun been torn asunder or some such... coles is definately important to keep healthy...

even though matty mentioned portis will get 25 touches a game, i think the more important issue is that we got lots of decent WRs, but our other RBs are no where close to portis... (yeah, coles is better than gardner/mccants, but gardner and mccants in the starting lineup wouldn't be too bad... rock as the starting RB would make me want to cry though).

That Guy · 08-23-2004, 07:29 PM

i think coles opted out of surgery because theres a chance it could go wrong, and he may not know what he'd do without football... definately intense.

SKINSnCANES · 08-23-2004, 08:17 PM

yea wanst it Coles that if he had his surgury it could either help him or end his career?

joecrisp · 08-23-2004, 09:10 PM

Coles opted not to have the surgery because there was an outside chance that it could end his career if the foot didn't heal properly. I don't think it really had much to do with the Pro Bowl.

I think his approach to it was that he was better off going without the surgery and trying to allow it to heal naturally with some offseason rest, rather than have the surgery and risk ending his career.

The problem is, Coles doesn't really know how to back off and take it easy. It's an admirable quality, but one that can be counterproductive in a situation where rest and relaxation are truly the most effective solutions.

The training staff did what it could to circumvent any further damage to the area, trying out different orthopedic inserts in his shoe, and holding him out of a good portion of minicamp activity. But Coles resisted the idea of sitting out completely, and that's probably why the injury continues to be an issue.

If Coles could have held off practicing until training camp, that probably would have been the best solution, but when you have a new coaching staff, a new quarterback and a new offense to get acquainted with, that's a tough sell for a guy like Coles.

It's painful for us fans to know that Coles' foot problems could have been resolved earlier, and it's unpleasant to watch him play preseason games, knowing any bad turn or tackle could end his season. But that's just the way it's going to be, and like Coles, we're all just going to have to grin and bear it... and hope for the best.

CRT3 · 08-23-2004, 09:21 PM

I think the game plan for preseason, if this is typical Gibbs from the past, will be to play the starters against St. Louis very much like last week in Miami. The one exception would be to not play Brunnel. 1st series of Atlanta game all starters will play then be pulled. They have been running passing camps since the end of March. They know the routes and the plays by now. Trainning camp is for technique and learning how to be physical again. So limited play willl be in order for the last game.

Coles plays hard and thats what we like. I wonder if we will see him venture accross the middle again like last week. I hope not.

08-23-2004, 05:27 PM	#19
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	Portis got smacked and flipped up twice on that drive. I definitly felt my heart skip both of those times, and when coles got hit hard. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

08-23-2004, 08:17 PM	#23
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	yea wanst it Coles that if he had his surgury it could either help him or end his career? __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

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08-23-2004, 02:13 PM	#16
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	more reason to hold back Portis while finding out who the #2 would be. i think Portis could run behind practically any OLine... while we know how good Coles is, we don't know how good Brunell or Ramsey are quite yet (at least i hope we don't), much less Coles and them together. we really gotta chuck it more this preseason, even if its not gonna be the breadn'butter in the regular season.

08-23-2004, 03:42 PM	#17
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	He shouldn't be going across the middle like he's been, but I do agree that he should play. He should NOT have gone back in after that hit though! On the other hand, if he's only in for 1-2 series, he'll likely only get a couple catches at most. Is that really gonna make that much of a difference with the QB/WR chemistry??? Just playing devils advocate....

08-23-2004, 03:55 PM	#18
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	hes our deep threat, and gardner is our over the middle guy. lets try that in the preseason and utilize that speed, while keepin hijm from the linebackers

08-23-2004, 06:35 PM	#20
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	WOAH WOAH WOAH! Make up your minds guys! In another thread we don't need to work on the passing game because they do that in practice, but now it's of the utmost importance Coles is out there. Coles is an idiot. Simply said. He needed surgery during the offseason but he skipped it for the Pro Bowl. I'm sorry, but the Pro Bowl is useless. I have nothing against him playing a few reps in pre-season, but stop taking him across the middle to get pounded. Let him go 1v1 on the outside with someone.

08-23-2004, 07:28 PM	#21
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	coles will bang his head into a wall until he's dead if you ask him to... he'll never volunteer to leave unless his leg has dun been torn asunder or some such... coles is definately important to keep healthy... even though matty mentioned portis will get 25 touches a game, i think the more important issue is that we got lots of decent WRs, but our other RBs are no where close to portis... (yeah, coles is better than gardner/mccants, but gardner and mccants in the starting lineup wouldn't be too bad... rock as the starting RB would make me want to cry though).

08-23-2004, 07:29 PM	#22
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	i think coles opted out of surgery because theres a chance it could go wrong, and he may not know what he'd do without football... definately intense.

08-23-2004, 09:10 PM	#24
joecrisp The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,501	Coles opted not to have the surgery because there was an outside chance that it could end his career if the foot didn't heal properly. I don't think it really had much to do with the Pro Bowl. I think his approach to it was that he was better off going without the surgery and trying to allow it to heal naturally with some offseason rest, rather than have the surgery and risk ending his career. The problem is, Coles doesn't really know how to back off and take it easy. It's an admirable quality, but one that can be counterproductive in a situation where rest and relaxation are truly the most effective solutions. The training staff did what it could to circumvent any further damage to the area, trying out different orthopedic inserts in his shoe, and holding him out of a good portion of minicamp activity. But Coles resisted the idea of sitting out completely, and that's probably why the injury continues to be an issue. If Coles could have held off practicing until training camp, that probably would have been the best solution, but when you have a new coaching staff, a new quarterback and a new offense to get acquainted with, that's a tough sell for a guy like Coles. It's painful for us fans to know that Coles' foot problems could have been resolved earlier, and it's unpleasant to watch him play preseason games, knowing any bad turn or tackle could end his season. But that's just the way it's going to be, and like Coles, we're all just going to have to grin and bear it... and hope for the best.

08-23-2004, 09:21 PM	#25
CRT3 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Rockville Age: 61 Posts: 795	I think the game plan for preseason, if this is typical Gibbs from the past, will be to play the starters against St. Louis very much like last week in Miami. The one exception would be to not play Brunnel. 1st series of Atlanta game all starters will play then be pulled. They have been running passing camps since the end of March. They know the routes and the plays by now. Trainning camp is for technique and learning how to be physical again. So limited play willl be in order for the last game. Coles plays hard and thats what we like. I wonder if we will see him venture accross the middle again like last week. I hope not.

It's time to sit Coles...

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