play calling a huge concern.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I don't think anyone played particularly well, but Kendall and, other than the 3rd and 1 play, Thomas held their own pretty well. Yeah, Cooley was flat out terrible blocking last night. I know it was against Tuck, but you've got to get the man lined up opposite of you.

To me the worst OL was Rabach. He got no push in the running game, got blown past at least once in the passing game and either JC was a beat early or he was a beat slow but I swear JC was leaning backwards on 70% of the snaps before he got the ball.

I noticed that too. I'm wondering if that was due to JC being concerned that he wouldn't have enough time to drop back, or if there was some sort of lack of commuication between him and Rabach. Either way it was a sure sign that something was out of sync.

[djnemo65]

There were four straight series in the second half in which we ran on first and second down to no effect, when it was clear we needed to give Campbell a little breathing room within which to work. That was a mistake. Even Madden commented on how we weren't helping JC by putting him in these 3rd and 6 situations consistently.

That was really the game. The defense got it together and did what it had to, but we couldn't move the ball on those initial critical second half possessions.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

There were four straight series in the second half in which we ran on first and second down to no effect, when it was clear we needed to give Campbell a little breathing room within which to work. That was a mistake. Even Madden commented on how we weren't helping JC by putting him in these 3rd and 6 situations consistently.

That was really the game. The defense got it together and did what it had to, but we couldn't move the ball on those initial critical second half possessions.

I think it may be like that pretty often for the first few weeks of the season. Not running to no effect, but simply running. Zorn has said since February that he is going to lean heavily on the running game early on.

[rstone1979]

seemed to me that Zorn gave up with about 5 mins to go and just kept them in a huddle and running the ball even though we were down 2 scores. I am really frustrated at that. I was screaming at the tv for them to hurry up but there was no sense of urgency at all. Very frustrating to watch

[Miller101]

Originally Posted by rstone1979

seemed to me that Zorn gave up with about 5 mins to go and just kept them in a huddle and running the ball even though we were down 2 scores. I am really frustrated at that. I was screaming at the tv for them to hurry up but there was no sense of urgency at all. Very frustrating to watch

I agree with you. That four minute offense of zorn's just absolutely sucks! Everything else you could argue as the "New Offense" "New Coach" "New System", but Zorn calling posts and slants mixed in with a few runs up the gut when you have to get two scores in five minutes is just dumb. I mean, not even spurrier did that! And he freakin sucked!

[hucapn]

Zorn just needs to run his offense. Too many times we lined up in two wide sets and ran the ball. If Zorn is going to lead this team anywhere, we need to hop out there and FULLY RUN THE WEST COAST OFFENSE! I went to a lot of sessions in Ashburn. I want to see those packages where they throw screens to Fred Davis when hes split wide left, ON FIRST DOWN. The West coast works by catching the defense off guard. Running the ball will never catch the Redskins opponents off guard because WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING THE DAMN BALL SINCE SPURRIER.(sorry to the fans like myself who blocked out the painful memory of that era. Trung Candidate, Shuler, ..tear)
Zorn needs to make Jason Campbell throw that shit 30-40 times a game, good or bad. He needs to throw those interceptions and learn like everyone else. When coachs have faith in their quarterbacks they call throws when they need first downs in key situations. Quaterbacks know that too. It's third and anything inside of five Portis is getting the ball. NOT TO DOWN PORTIS.(he plays hard as hell, a little crazy with the costumes but did you see that block? JACKED UP!!!) His talents will be best suited running draws, screens, and counters out of a three or four receiver set. CAN FRED DAVIS GET ON THE FIELD? CAN WE THROW THE M@#$%F%$#@@ING BALL TO CHRIS COOLEY)
I guess I'm just disappointed, but we are mismanaging talents from the top down as an organization right now. I think Snyder just needs to pay a guy to make the decisions for him. Parcells would have been a good fit, as blasphemous as that is to say being a former coach of the two most dispicable teams in the NFL, besides Philadelphia who is equally dispicable. Let's just play football. On some levels its complicated, but on Sunday it's about our team wanting to win more than the other squad.
The Giants are better and they were ready to execute their gameplan. Burress looked worth everything they paid him and he knew it. Brandon Jacobs DEMOLISHED our best defender. Eli went about his business with that stupid ass look like he always does. (His face looks like its stuck on the word "darn") Zorn was trying to get first downs with the starting offense. The "D" stood up but not really. We have problems to fix as a squad. They need to knight London Fletcher or something. GET MOTIVATED SKINS!! The city needs it!!

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by hucapn

Running the ball will never catch the Redskins opponents off guard because WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING THE DAMN BALL SINCE SPURRIER.(sorry to the fans like myself who blocked out the painful memory of that era. Trung Candidate, Shuler, ..tear)

You might be too young to remember, but we were running the ball long before Spurrier. (Hogs, Riggo, Byner, etc. Or we could really go back to G. Allen & Larry Brown).

[joethiesmanfan]

You can't expect Cooley to block Tuck one on one. Ladell Betts is worhtless. How bout the rock waking the team up!!!! THE ROCK!!!! All is not lost. Zorn your behind might get fired.

[dmek25]

our pass blocking was down right brutal. hence, all the running

[SC Skins Fan]

Just an observation, but did anyone notice how close Portis was lined up to the LOS last night? As I rack my brain I'm thinking that it is probably a similar depth to where Alexander used to line up in Seattle, but certainly a few yards closer than Portis was lined up in previous years. He was starting from basically fullback depth. All the runs were quick hitters and when Jason spun Portis was right there, basically looked like fullback dive relationships. Maybe it was because they couldn't block anyone (who thought it would be a good idea to have Cooley trying to reach Kiwanuka and Tuck to cut off the backside? He was totally overmatched trying to make those plays), but it just looked strange to my eye. No stretch plays or very few counter actions (again, perhaps product of blocking) but that was not the same run game as in previous years, no matter what lip service we got in the offseason or from John Madden last night.

[MTK]

I really think it's premature to blame the playcalling as I think the bigger problem is JC's obvious lack of comfort working in this offense.

The one thing coaching related that I did have a problem with was the lack of any sort of urgency when the clock got to 4 minutes and under. Where was the hurry up??

And Madden was right at the end, we should have attempted a FG and then went for the onsides kick. It really was our only shot at somehow pulling off a win.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really think it's premature to blame the playcalling as I think the bigger problem is JC's obvious lack of comfort working in this offense.

The one thing coaching related that I did have a problem with was the lack of any sort of urgency when the clock got to 4 minutes and under. Where was the hurry up??

And Madden was right at the end, we should have attempted a FG and then went for the onsides kick. It really was our only shot at somehow pulling off a win.

Both products of inexperience from the head coach. Learning experience for him hopefully. But learning experiences mean that it will take time to get better. And the Redskins go about reinventing the wheel on offense yet again. I cannot help thinking it did not have to be this way.

[doughtydoubter]

conservative, conservative...you know what? I know alot of people will put this on campbell...but i dont think zorns play calling ever gave him a chance, and i thought gibbs was bad....geez
Props to the defense coming together the second half. They definitely gave us the opportunity.
blache gest one thumbs up
zorn=spurrier 2.0

[doughtydoubter]

The question is...does zorns offense give jason a chance to succeed? If jason doesnt have time, or open receievers or the right plays called...there is little hope of him looking comfortable. I could be wayyy off base, maybe zorn is a genius in the making who knows? But right now that ws some of the worst play calling, and game management i have EVER seen...including the dark "spurrier" days

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

The question is...does zorns offense give jason a chance to succeed? If jason doesnt have time, or open receievers or the right plays called...there is little hope of him looking comfortable. I could be wayyy off base, maybe zorn is a genius in the making who knows? But right now that ws some of the worst play calling, and game management i have EVER seen...including the dark "spurrier" days

Zorn sucked last night, Campbell sucked last night, and the two are not unrelated. Clearly Zorn is not Mike Holmgren (hell, if this continues Danny might just back the truck up, skip the middle man, and bring Holmgren to DC in 2010).

The only person that came to play last night was Clinton Portis, but Portis always comes to play. He is the guy I really feel bad for because he deserves much better given how hard he plays. He is one of my favorite football players of all-time and always will be. That shot he put on Kiwanuka was the best hit of the whole night. To crib from an old football coach cliche, if we had 11 Clinton Portises we'd never lose a game.