NFL voids stipulation in hasslett's contract

[WaldSkins]

The best coach should get the job hands down. Color shouldnt even matter.

[DarkKnight]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

The best coach should get the job hands down. Color shouldnt even matter.

who is the best coach, how do you determine that, by who he worked for, what he's done in his past....that means, no-one knew who Dungy was until Tampa took him.....who you think the best guy is?????? thats determine on what?

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by DarkKnight

who is the best coach, how do you determine that, by who he worked for, what he's done in his past....that means, no-one knew who Dungy was until Tampa took him.....who you think the best guy is?????? thats determine on what?

This is such a laughably ignorant statement. Dungy was well known in the league for his work as an assistant coach. He worked his way up, just like most coaches do.

For the record - I have no problem with the Rooney Rule (to the extent I understand its requirements).

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by DarkKnight

who is the best coach, how do you determine that, by who he worked for, what he's done in his past....that means, no-one knew who Dungy was until Tampa took him.....who you think the best guy is?????? thats determine on what?

EXACTLY the same way it is in.......any interviewing process.........anywhere.......

[Monkeydad]

This rule is Reverse Racism.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Buster

This rule is Reverse Racism.

"Reverse" racism certainly exists, but the Rooney rule is not reverse racism. The rule does not require that the teams hire anyone. Nor does the rule in any way prejudice white candidates. The rule simply requires that teams at least talk to a minority coaching candidate.

It's funny that the people who blast guys like Jesse Jackson for crying wolf are usually the same people who scream and yell from the rooftops about "reverse" racism.

[CRedskinsRule]

I think an exception should be long term team assistants. if you have a guy on your staff you know you want, then you ought to be able to hire him straight up.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

There's nothing wrong with the rule. The league wants diversity. Let's not forget that the team owners run the league, and make the rules.

Haslett's agent should have known this. They should have made the clause similar to G. Williams' when he was here. If Haslett wins 6 games, and doesn't become the head coach next season, then the Rams owe him $$.

[FRPLG]

I think the rule is dumb and insulting. How many times has a minority candidate been interviewed simply as satisfaction for the rule? Probably 75% of the time. To me that is awful. I wouldn't participate in such crap sharade if I were a minority. I think it is awesomely wonderful that the league is promoting this and being so proactive I just think this specific rule is terrible.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I think the rule is dumb and insulting. How many times has a minority candidate been interviewed simply as satisfaction for the rule? Probably 75% of the time. To me that is awful. I wouldn't participate in such crap sharade if I were a minority. I think it is awesomely wonderful that the league is promoting this and being so proactive I just think this specific rule is terrible.

I was going to post a comment until I read yours. Well said. My thoughts exactly.

[hooskins]

Yeah the rule is fine, but more importantly it is wasting the time of the minority candidate interviewed. Obviously if haslett does a good job then he will be the coach and interviews will just be a formality.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Yeah the rule is fine, but more importantly it is wasting the time of the minority candidate interviewed. Obviously if haslett does a good job then he will be the coach and interviews will just be a formality.

Might be a formality for the Rams job, but not for another job down the line perhaps. For example, suppose Stump Mitchell interviews but doesn't get the job because the owner (suppose the Rams have an owner in this instance) is set on Haslett. But then next year the Rams GM takes over in let's say Jacksonville and he's looking for a new head coach. And he says "Hey, you know I was really impressed with Stump Mitchell when he interviewed last year. I never really got the chance to know him or sit down and listen to his ideas until I interviewed him last year. I like this guy, he's who I want as my head coach"

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Might be a formality for the Rams job, but not for another job down the line perhaps. For example, suppose Stump Mitchell interviews but doesn't get the job because the owner (suppose the Rams have an owner in this instance) is set on Haslett. But then next year the Rams GM takes over in let's say Jacksonville and he's looking for a new head coach. And he says "Hey, you know I was really impressed with Stump Mitchell when he interviewed last year. I never really got the chance to know him or sit down and listen to his ideas until I interviewed him last year. I like this guy, he's who I want as my head coach"

I agree that those kind of scenarios are at least plausible, if not likely. But in my opinion that situation is also irrelevant as far as race is concerned. Hypothetically the Rams could miss out on Stump Mitchell by not interviewing him just as much as they could miss out on a non-minority candidate.

When deciding who to interview, teams should simply do their due diligence based on the candidate's past experience and reputation. And I believe they do. Skin color doesn't need to factor into it, and assuming it does is sort of a slap in the face to anyone who hires coaches.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Might be a formality for the Rams job, but not for another job down the line perhaps. For example, suppose Stump Mitchell interviews but doesn't get the job because the owner (suppose the Rams have an owner in this instance) is set on Haslett. But then next year the Rams GM takes over in let's say Jacksonville and he's looking for a new head coach. And he says "Hey, you know I was really impressed with Stump Mitchell when he interviewed last year. I never really got the chance to know him or sit down and listen to his ideas until I interviewed him last year. I like this guy, he's who I want as my head coach"

On the flip side how does the token interview go? Maybe it goes like a normal interview and maybe it is a 10 minute drive-by interview. Like I said I appreciate the goal. I think having more minority head coaches was inevitable so I don't see much need for a rule which seems awfully insulting to me. I think there have to be other less overt but still infact effective ways to achieve the noble goals. The road hell is paved with...
Maybe I am just cynical.

[Ruhskins]

As someone mentioned, one of the goals of the Rooney Rule was to provide qualified minority coaches the chance to have interview and networking experience. The overall goal of the league is to diversify the coaching ranks, and this rule gives an opportunity for coaches, who traditionally would not even be interviewed, exposed to the head coach hiring process. St. Louis can eventually hire Haslett if they want to, I don't think this rule is not going to prevent the Rams from doing that, and the media shouldn't be blowing this out of proportion. I do think the NFL should give teams a break if they want to groom an assistant from their ranks, but Haslett doesn't fit this scenario though.