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Old 12-13-2008, 01:52 PM   #1
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Re: Redskins v Ravens Offensive GT Review: Skins lose turnover battle, game

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There's some good ideas here, but also a lot of things we already do. I'll try to address this in brief.

1) The Redskins had a 3-4 game span where they put Portis in routes a lot, culminating in the massacre against Pittsburgh. It was somewhat effective, and Portis was maybe our most valuable receiver in October, and definately our biggest weapon in the passing game against Pittsburgh. Not so coincidentally, this also coincides with our 5 game span of the worst pass protection known to man.

2) Hooskins suggest this as well. Couldn't hurt, but I doubt it would help. JC is already seeing the field really well from the pocket.

3) Makes more sense than Yoder/Cooley sets.

4) Ultimately though, Zorn will never do this because he sees it as a gadget formation. Is he being stubborn? For sure. Would this solve all the problems with scoring points? Doubt it.

5) That's when Zorn takes his shots already. Although it wouldn't kill us to be more aggressive more often, I'd like to see shots taken on THIRD down. That's been our problem down all year, and it would give us the best chance to make big plays with Moss or Cooley. Our third down screens and draws have been largely effective, but I'd like to see Zorn scrap the easy to cover throws at the sticks and try to double move someone or just go deep.

6) Lots of this earlier in the year, none of it since Betts got hurt. I think there's a lot of creative ideas earlier in the year that Zorn has got away from, none more costly than the lack of misdirection. Of course, he's going to come back to them eventually.

7) We do max protect on our deep passes. We just don't help on the edge rushers. The one that Reed picked off, that was a deep throw to Devin Thomas, and Portis, for whatever reason, just didn't make the block on Suggs, who went around Samuels. But Portis and Cooley both stayed in on the play.
I brought this up in another thread and it's off topic a little bit. We need a back that can come out of the backfield and has the ability to take it to the endzone. Someone that's just a pure speed guy. A Reggie Bush, Leon Washington Felix Jones type of guy. Gibbs used Joe Washington out of the back field in the 80's. Betts is good but I'm talking about a guy that can really make people miss in the open field. This is something that should possibly be addressed in the offseason. It's never talked about but I like the idea.
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Old 12-13-2008, 03:27 PM   #2
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Re: Redskins v Ravens Offensive GT Review: Skins lose turnover battle, game

Also GT, I was wondering whether you think R. Thomas is on the decline. Prior to this year I thought he was our best run-blocker when healthy and a very good pass protector. Doesn't seem this way anymore (as you pointed out). Does he need to be replaced next year, and aside from him which lineman do you think need to be replaced for our offense to be effective?
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Old 12-13-2008, 05:20 PM   #3
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Also GT, I was wondering whether you think R. Thomas is on the decline. Prior to this year I thought he was our best run-blocker when healthy and a very good pass protector. Doesn't seem this way anymore (as you pointed out). Does he need to be replaced next year, and aside from him which lineman do you think need to be replaced for our offense to be effective?
If his level of play stayed exactly where it is right now, I would say he's a liability to the team. Luckily, I think it's more of a down year sort of deal, but his best years are certainly behind him.

I think we can field a good offensive line next year with him at RG, but the coaches should meet him halfway and help him out a little bit with the scheme as he learns the new schemes.

Rabach must be replaced. The rest can stay, but depth must be added.
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Old 12-13-2008, 07:47 PM   #4
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Re: Redskins v Ravens Offensive GT Review: Skins lose turnover battle, game

Campbell's attention to detail evident in delvelopment - Hog Heaven

Wrote a bunch of words here, basically proving that Jason Campbell's "regression" is nothing more than a bump in the road that he already overcame. Got too high after the Detroit game, torn down (literally, by NFL defenses), rebuilt, and now we have a solid QB again.

Can't seem to spell development correctly though.
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:18 PM   #5
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Yay! Game valuation!

Game Valuation

1. Jason Campbell
2. Mike Sellers
3. Ladell Betts
4. Pete Kendall
5. Casey Rabach
6. Santana Moss
7. Devin Thomas
8. Chris Samuels
9. Chris Cooley
10. Clinton Portis
11. Stephon Heyer
12. Antwaan Randle El
13. Jon Jansen
14. Todd Yoder
15. Malcolm Kelly
16. Randy Thomas
17. Justin Geisinger
18. James Thrash
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