Zorn feels like worst coach in America.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by 30gut

i hope we keep Zorn if we don't i bet Seattle will drop Mora and go after their native son

I highly doubt Seattle would drop Mora, a guy w/ HC experience, for Zorn. However, I think you're on to something. Everyone assumes Zorn's departure would be a firing but I truly believe it's more likely he leaves of his own accord (partly because I don't think Snyder/Cerrato want to fire him after one season and partly because I really suspect Zorn will have had enough by season's end). So the scenario would be Mora as HC and Zorn as OC in Seattle. Zorn wouldn't have to deal w/ the media any longer - especially DC media - and overall would avoid the kind of scrutiny that has him looking like a nervous wreck.

Bottom line: i really suspect Zorn is deciding whether the HC gig is for him (yet) and won't be surprised if we have a 2nd HC resign in two consecutive seasons.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I highly doubt Seattle would drop Mora, a guy w/ HC experience, for Zorn. However, I think you're on to something. Everyone assumes Zorn's departure would be a firing but I truly believe it's more likely he leaves of his own accord (partly because I don't think Snyder/Cerrato want to fire him after one season and partly because I really suspect Zorn will have had enough by season's end). So the scenario would be Mora as HC and Zorn as OC in Seattle. Zorn wouldn't have to deal w/ the media any longer - especially DC media - and overall would avoid the kind of scrutiny that has him looking like a nervous wreck.

Bottom line: i really suspect Zorn is deciding whether the HC gig is for him (yet) and won't be surprised if we have a 2nd HC resign in two consecutive seasons.

Resigning after the first season? I sure hope not. One bad season is no reason to resign right away, unless he REALLY feels like coaching is not the thing for him.

[Miller101]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I highly doubt Seattle would drop Mora, a guy w/ HC experience, for Zorn. However, I think you're on to something. Everyone assumes Zorn's departure would be a firing but I truly believe it's more likely he leaves of his own accord (partly because I don't think Snyder/Cerrato want to fire him after one season and partly because I really suspect Zorn will have had enough by season's end). So the scenario would be Mora as HC and Zorn as OC in Seattle. Zorn wouldn't have to deal w/ the media any longer - especially DC media - and overall would avoid the kind of scrutiny that has him looking like a nervous wreck.

Bottom line: i really suspect Zorn is deciding whether the HC gig is for him (yet) and won't be surprised if we have a 2nd HC resign in two consecutive seasons.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if he resigns and Seattle picks him up IN ANY CAPACITY then Seattle owes us compensation right? Like a draft pick or two?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Miller101

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if he resigns and Seattle picks him up IN ANY CAPACITY then Seattle owes us compensation right? Like a draft pick or two?

A good question and I don't know the answer. I would have guessed their would be remuneration at stake but nothing more.

[Dblock804]

problem is Zorn has been rattled. If he's not working with a mental health pro now he will be by weeks end. He will quit and move next door to Mark Furman.

[Hog1]

Growing pains. Life lessons learned. It was good to hear him examine himself, and will ultimately benefit himself and his relationship with the team.
what doesn't kill you........

[JLee9718]

I applauded Snyder when he hired Jim Zorn and I'm still on the Zorn bandwagon. I think we could be a much better team without some players making self serving statements. We need to have a good draft in 2009, but it's hard to do that when you've given up almost half of your choices.

[53Fan]

I'm fine with Zorn leading this team. I was glad to hear him take some of the blame and I think he's the kind of guy who will learn from his mistakes. He's learning on the job, but that's what happens when you hire a guy with no headcoaching experience. I think Gibbs felt a little lost his first year too, but he turned out pretty good. I think Zorn will too given the opportunity.

[Bigreds77]

I hope Zorn gets a chance & they fire the players that are laying down.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Bigreds77

I hope Zorn gets a chance & they fire the players that are laying down.

So what players do you think are laying down?

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by firstdown

So what players do you think are laying down?

Yeah, who is laying down? You want to get rid of non performers might as well gut the whole offense(minus a few players Cooley, Portis, Moss), but then you have to totally start over from scratch. ANd th at I think is what Snyder might be thinking. If you have to gut the whole thing, might as well bring in a proven commodity to do it.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

So what players do you think are laying down?

They do appear flat to me.
If you saw (I hate to even think it) Dallas play the other night against the Gmen. Their D was everywhere, and super fired up! We are not doing anything that resembles...that. Flat, no emotion. As bad as we have played, no one is noticibly, even mad? I don't get that?
We NEED to find it to spoil the Eagles party this Sunday
HTTR

[TheSmurfs22]

Zorn is not the problem, it is our head office. Zorn deserves another shot. The growing pains of a new coach were delayed because of our early success. The fact we are 7-7 after aint too bad. Yeah I wish we could have played better throughout the whole season, but truth be told I saw us going 6-10.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

Zorn is not the problem, it is our head office. Zorn deserves another shot. The growing pains of a new coach were delayed because of our early success. The fact we are 7-7 after aint too bad. Yeah I wish we could have played better throughout the whole season, but truth be told I saw us going 6-10.

You are right and wrong. Our Front Office messed up after 2000 firing Marty because he wanted GM powers. Snyder gambled with Spurrier after Gibbs rebuffed the HC offer. The Spurrier "experiment" was a disaster, then he finally got Gibbs back on. Gibbs did get us to the playoffs again, but there was no magic to be had again. You are wrong with Zorn though. His system sucks and the players know it. You can't fit squares in round holes. THe personnel we have is built around the running game and a nice down the field passing game. Dink and Dunk negates the speed of both Moss and Randle El. Of course our WR's having the case of the dropsies compounds the problem, but we simply have the wrong personnel for his system. On top of that his system has been busted wide open and pretty much figured out by our opposition. Only way Zorn can be successful in '09 is by pretty much revising his current system or throwing it out completely. The WCo might work in the crappy NFC West, but in the East, where the beasts lay, you need to be able to throw the deeper ball.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

Zorn is not the problem, it is our head office. Zorn deserves another shot. The growing pains of a new coach were delayed because of our early success. The fact we are 7-7 after aint too bad. Yeah I wish we could have played better throughout the whole season, but truth be told I saw us going 6-10.

I've always liked Zorn, i just wish he would have re-thought his schemes a few weeks ago. He deserves another year though, but he better higher a qb coach and maybe some new blood on the coaching staff.