Glaring Need / Roster

[SeanTaylor21SKINS]

I'm hoping Brian Orakpo will still be on the board. Just look at the guy, he is a beast.

YouTube - DE Brian Orakpo Highlights Texas 2008

If we don't get a DE in the first round. I would love to make Lawrence Sidbury a Redskin.

YouTube - Lawrence Sidbury - Richmond Spiders' DE...

[Trample the Elderly]

We'd all love to have Orakpo but he'll be gone. We've DEs for this year and could pick up a Buzbee caliber type player with undrafted guys.

Sidbury is another story. I agree he is a good guy to pick up but will he be able to play the position for years to come? He's not a high round pick even though his stock has risen on many websites and around the draft conversations currently going on. Magazine had him as a late rounder months ago so he's worthy of a pick and could probably get him.

That would fill the glaring need that I started this thread over. Since Vinny said in his rescent interview, or implied, that RT was Heyers to lose, we can only assume that the O-line is going to be addressed in another way. This could also signal that they are going to get a OLB with the 13th.

It'd be a wasted endeavor to speculate what they're really going to do. As much as many bad mouth him, Vinny isn't stupid. I don't think he's going to broadcast the team's intentions to the league.

With our recent additions and with the signing of Wynn and (Daniels (Rumor)) the need is OLB. Yes we do need O-line help, but if we had to play today we'd be short an OLB. So who do we get? Do we wait for the draft? Do we pick up a FA? Are there any quality guys left?

[Trample the Elderly]

As it stands right now. Some of these guys are camp fodder but most have played for us or we're scheduled to play and have been signed. I've placed these guys here according to who I think is going to do what next season; it's not official. I have left out a few guys who I think they might cut (Thrash).

LWR: Santana Moss, Malcolm Kelly
TE: Chris Cooley, Fred Davis, Todd Yoder
LT: Chris Samuels, Devon Clark
LG: Derrick Dockery, Chad Rhinehardt
C: Casey Raback, Will Montgomery
RG: Randy Thomas, Anthony Batiste
RT: Stephon Heyer, John Jansen
RWR: Antwaan Randal El, Devon Thomas
QB: Jason Campbell, Colt Brennan, Todd Collins
FB: Mike Sellers
RB: Clinton Portis, Ladell Betts, Rock Cartwright

CB: DeAngelo Hall, Fred Smoot, Byron Westbrook
LDE: Rynaldo Wynn, Rob Jackson, Alex Buzbee
LDT: Cornelius Griffin, Lorenzo Alexander
RDT: Albert Haynesworth, Antony Montgomery
RDE: Andre Carter, Chris Wilson
CB: Carlos Rogers, Justin Tryon
LOLB: Alfred Fincher ?
ILB: London Fletcher, H.B. Blades
ROLB: Rocky McIntosh, Tyson Smith?
SS: Laron Landry, Mike Green
FS: Chris Horton, Reed Doughty, Kareem Moore

KR: Rock Cartwright, Devon Thomas, Malcolm Kelly
K: Suan Suisham, H: Zac Atterberry
P: Zac Atterberry
LS: Ethan Albright
PR: Malcolm Kelly, Santana Moss, Malcolm Kelly

Feel free to chop it up if you see a f-up.

[mrreddman]

Damn GOAT, I couldn't have said it better myself. I totally agree with you, except I still don't like the Wynn signing too much. The only DE I would like to see us draft is Jaron Gilbert, but not at 13. Oher, Smith or Rey at 13 and im happy.

[GTripp0012]

I was working on this when this thread began. Pretty sure I said, awesome.

Available Free Agents and Ten Over-Specified Redskins Needs - Hog Heaven

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I was working on this when this thread began. Pretty sure I said, awesome.

Available Free Agents and Ten Over-Specified Redskins Needs - Hog Heaven

There's no I in team...and no A in competent

Anyhow, this thread seems a lot like this one http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...pre-draft.html

Though I can easily see how people would miss it, that thread title tells you nothing really

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There's no I in team...and no A in competent

Ah, but there IS one in equiv'a'lent. I was just borrowing.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I was working on this when this thread began. Pretty sure I said, awesome.

Available Free Agents and Ten Over-Specified Redskins Needs - Hog Heaven

Good stuff... but probably outdated within a week or so of the draft as new talent hits the market. I think our FO is very smart to sit tight right now.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I was working on this when this thread began. Pretty sure I said, awesome.

Available Free Agents and Ten Over-Specified Redskins Needs - Hog Heaven

I love your #4...WR. I had Ramses Barden in mind. I honestly hope Kelly and Thomas end up working out for us and catching a lot of balls but to have someone who is 6'-6" able to go after the jump balls or corner endzone passes would be awsome. They say he's not a speedster so he will not push out Kelly or Thomas and they say he needs to refine his route running so he would be someone we could work with to develope and utilize perhaps on field goals to help block(maybe his height will enable him to swat opponants kicks) and maybe as a possession WR in the endzone.

[53Fan]

I think (HOPE) both the OLB and OL positions will be addressed by the time camp begins. Marcus has been offered a contract, but just like Daniels is waiting to see what his options are. Mack, Oher, Maualuga would all be great addiions for us. We'll just have to see who's available come draft day. I would like to pick up a second rounder but I still believe there is talent to be had in the 3rd at the O-Line and OLB positions. Especially RT.

[redskinjim]

cant wait for the draft we need a linebacker first round

[Paintrain]

OLB is our #1 glaring need because we don't have anyone on the roster that can start in that role. If we had to, we can start Heyer at RT without the line collapsing. We can start Wynn or (if resigned) Daniels for one more year until we address that in the '10 offseason. However, we simply cannot go into the '09 season with HB Blade, all 5'9, 240 lbs of him at our SLB spot. That's just madness.

I know 75% of our fanbase has a love of OL, OL, OL but we need playmakers and at 13 we need to get one.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

OLB is our #1 glaring need because we don't have anyone on the roster that can start in that role. If we had to, we can start Heyer at RT without the line collapsing. We can start Wynn or (if resigned) Daniels for one more year until we address that in the '10 offseason. However, we simply cannot go into the '09 season with HB Blade, all 5'9, 240 lbs of him at our SLB spot. That's just madness.

I know 75% of our fanbase has a love of OL, OL, OL but we need playmakers and at 13 we need to get one.

But, I think you'll agree with this, a defensive player we take at 13 has to not only fit in our scheme, but also fit in anyone elses scheme as his prime years are going to be played likely under a different defensive coaching staff.

In the first round, that's pretty much two players: Orakpo, and Tyson Jackson. Orakpo could help us at OLB next year in kind of a Matthias Kiwanuka type role, but Jackson wouldn't help our LB situation at all, and would likely spend a year as Carter's backup in the defense.

As much as I like to conceptualize everything I discuss, at the end of the day, we're still going to have to draft a player, not just a position. This, obviously, is a reason to not just draft "best available RT" as well in the first round.

BTW, Blades' skill set plays well at SLB. It's because 1) TEs are smaller now then they've ever been in the past and 2) our defense usually puts Chris Horton on the outside of him on most plays anyway.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

But, I think you'll agree with this, a defensive player we take at 13 has to not only fit in our scheme, but also fit in anyone elses scheme as his prime years are going to be played likely under a different defensive coaching staff.

In the first round, that's pretty much two players: Orakpo, and Tyson Jackson. Orakpo could help us at OLB next year in kind of a Matthias Kiwanuka type role, but Jackson wouldn't help our LB situation at all, and would likely spend a year as Carter's backup in the defense.

As much as I like to conceptualize everything I discuss, at the end of the day, we're still going to have to draft a player, not just a position. This, obviously, is a reason to not just draft "best available RT" as well in the first round.

BTW, Blades' skill set plays well at SLB. It's because 1) TEs are smaller now then they've ever been in the past and 2) our defense usually puts Chris Horton on the outside of him on most plays anyway.

You have a good argument, as I believe Heyer would be decent enough for us to play good offense. Although I had different thought, as Heyer is the reason why I want us to draft Mack; NFL are getting enriched with massive NTs.. Some people said Buges don't instill rookie into the line, that may be the case but he also could play guard.. Maybe he would come in when Thomas don't perform well, that is unless if Thomas goes back to his old self but it would be difficult with back problem and age, I believe..

But now I'm open to drafting LB w/ #13 pick..

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

You have a good argument, as I believe Heyer would be decent enough for us to play good offense. Although I had different thought, as Heyer is the reason why I want us to draft Mack; NFL are getting enriched with massive NTs.. Some people said Buges don't instill rookie into the line, that may be the case but he also could play guard.. Maybe he would come in when Thomas don't perform well, that is unless if Thomas goes back to his old self but it would be difficult with back problem and age, I believe..

But now I'm open to drafting LB w/ #13 pick..

Mack or Wood can help us with the nose tackle. If they pass on both of these guys something is wrong.