Mock Draft - Skins take Orakpo

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by DIRTEE

I'm with you on that one. I read about his knee and I just kept thinking about E. James and M. Kelly. We really need an impact first rounder.

Shit never studied about this guy closely. He missed games in 2 seasons with a bum knee huh? I think we need a tackle or guard more than a d linemen, but would be happy if we did get an impact DE to play opposite Haynesworth. I see this Orakpo thing as a 50/50 shot at best. The Big 12 is tough, but nothing compared to the gruelling 16 possibly more games played in the NFL. IF he can stay healthy he rocks. I did watch enough of him this past season to know he rocks, but damn, he missed time in 2 seasons with his knee? Snyder gambles way too much for my liking!!!!!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Recurring knee injury to start...serious enough he's missed time two seasons in a row. In the NFL he and that knee will take much more abuse than seen in the past...so i guess on injury history alone I'd be wary of Orakpo. Secondly he's not at all a simple fit to our system. We require a lot from our OLBs, including the ability to cover well and make plays in space. Orakpo's not experienced in either thing. As a DE his explosiveness isn't elite so I doubt we get a serious boost to pass-rush, and he's not an elite run-stuffer as we need at LDE. I said somewhere else i think Orakpo would do alright @ RDE in our system (after AC moves on).

It's been reported that Eugene Monroe has knee problems as well, and according to Peter King, he failed the physical of a number of NFL teams, yet he still will be picked up in the top 5, if not the top 10.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

It's been reported that Eugene Monroe has knee problems as well, and according to Peter King, he failed the physical of a number of NFL teams, yet he still will be picked up in the top 5, if not the top 10.

Heard this too...initially i thought Monroe would be a "realistic" guy to grab if we traded up (even though Danny/Vinny wouldn't think so) but w/ the knee thing there's no way in hell I'd take him. I dunno to me it's like any top 10 or even top 15 pick should meet qualifications of elite prospect but also clean injury history. The injury thing just multiplies the bust factor that much more.

[The Goat]

...btw I luv the Smith highlights above. What gets me is how dominant he is in action, just mauling opponents AND NEVER, EVER GIVING UP so it seems. Oher's highlights on youtube are also very impressive but you do see him "searching" at times or just like something has confused him. But then in the combine/pro day drills i think Oher looks much more crisp and in far better shape than Smith. I know it's totally unlikely we won't get to choose between the two but I guess i'll be very pleased if we draft either guy.

[mrreddman]

Smith is going to drop to us at #13. On the field he is nasty and I would be cool with the pick. As long as we don't trade up, take Sanchez, any RB, or undersized DE/LB.... I wont bitch too much..
Hmmm...I guess I like Smith/Oher/Rey/Orakpo/Jackson if we stay at #13

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by mrreddman

Smith is going to drop to us at #13. On the field he is nasty and I would be cool with the pick. As long as we don't trade up, take Sanchez, any RB, or undersized DE/LB.... I wont bitch too much..
Hmmm...I guess I like Smith/Oher/Rey/Orakpo/Jackson if we stay at #13

DITTO

[derekc4]

Apparently there is a lot of doubt whether Orakpo can play in a 3-4. I've read from a few sources while speed and strength are adequate. He doesn't have the hips to cover. Better said, he is poor at major changes in direction. So he might have to play End in a 4-3.

[Number44]

A.Smith -(40) 5.28 -(Bch) 19 -(Vert) 25 -(Brd) 7'10" -(Sht) 4.93 -(3Cn) 7.88
J.Smith -(40) 5.09 -(Bch) 33 -(Vert) 24 -(Brd) 8'00" -(Sht) 4.69 -(3Cn) 7.53
E.Monroe -(40) 5.18 -(Bch) 23 -(Vert) 28.5 -(Brd) 9'02" -(Sht) 4.78 -(3Cn) 7.88
M.Oher -(40) 5.34 -(Bch) 21 -(Vert) 30.5 -(Brd) 8'07" -(Sht) 4.60 -(3Cn) 7.81
E.Britton -(40) 5.14 -(Bch) 24 -(Vert) 28.5 -(Brd) 8'04" -(Sht) 4.91 -(3Cn) 7.87

Out of these 5 OTs, A. Smith Grades -(40) 4th -(Bch) 5th -(Vert) 4th -(Brd) 5th -
(Sht) 5th -(3Cn) 5th (tie)

These ProDay numbers combined with blowing off the combine and his missing the Sugar Bowl for consulting an agent too early frankly scare me away from A. Smith. Questionable heart and work ethic IMO. If none of J. Smith, Monroe, Oher or Orakpo are there at 13, trading down with a team like Tampa Bay at 19 and getting Britton looks like an interesting option to look into IMO.

Orakpo is still my guy, though. He missed one game last year with a bruised knee. No ligament damage. His film, conditioning, strength, speed, and combine grades all tell me he is a beast and a difference-maker. He had a huge game going up against Oklahoma's Loadholt. I'm tired of losing games in the 4th quarter, and guys with Orakpo's conditioning will finally help put an end to that IMO. I think he will be taken top 10, but if concerns about his knee drop him down and he is still there at 13, I say we thank our lucky stars and grab him!

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by Number44

A.Smith -(40) 5.28 -(Bch) 19 -(Vert) 25 -(Brd) 7'10" -(Sht) 4.93 -(3Cn) 7.88
J.Smith -(40) 5.09 -(Bch) 33 -(Vert) 24 -(Brd) 8'00" -(Sht) 4.69 -(3Cn) 7.53
E.Monroe -(40) 5.18 -(Bch) 23 -(Vert) 28.5 -(Brd) 9'02" -(Sht) 4.78 -(3Cn) 7.88
M.Oher -(40) 5.34 -(Bch) 21 -(Vert) 30.5 -(Brd) 8'07" -(Sht) 4.60 -(3Cn) 7.81
E.Britton -(40) 5.14 -(Bch) 24 -(Vert) 28.5 -(Brd) 8'04" -(Sht) 4.91 -(3Cn) 7.87

Out of these 5 OTs, A. Smith Grades -(40) 4th -(Bch) 5th -(Vert) 4th -(Brd) 5th -
(Sht) 5th -(3Cn) 5th (tie)

These ProDay numbers combined with blowing off the combine and his missing the Sugar Bowl for consulting an agent too early frankly scare me away from A. Smith. Questionable heart and work ethic IMO. If none of J. Smith, Monroe, Oher or Orakpo are there at 13, trading down with a team like Tampa Bay at 19 and getting Britton looks like an interesting option to look into IMO.

Orakpo is still my guy, though. He missed one game last year with a bruised knee. No ligament damage. His film, conditioning, strength, speed, and combine grades all tell me he is a beast and a difference-maker. He had a huge game going up against Oklahoma's Loadholt. I'm tired of losing games in the 4th quarter, and guys with Orakpo's conditioning will finally help put an end to that IMO. I think he will be taken top 10, but if concerns about his knee drop him down and he is still there at 13, I say we thank our lucky stars and grab him!

I don't think there is a question that if Orakpo falls to us at 13 we're taking him. The knee concerns aren't that much of an issue to me, but Loadholt won't even go on Day 1 so I'd expect him to have a great game. My only concern with Orakpo is his consistency.

[Number44]

Originally Posted by vallin21

I don't think there is a question that if Orakpo falls to us at 13 we're taking him. The knee concerns aren't that much of an issue to me, but Loadholt won't even go on Day 1 so I'd expect him to have a great game. My only concern with Orakpo is his consistency.

We agree on Orakpo.

My point about Orakpo's play vs. Loadholt is that Loadholt was certainly among the top 10% of division 1 OTs, so he was no slouch. Loadholt will definitely be drafted. In fact, he may well get taken in the second round.

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by Number44

We agree on Orakpo.

My point about Orakpo's play vs. Loadholt is that Loadholt was certainly among the top 10% of division 1 OTs, so he was no slouch. Loadholt will definitely be drafted. In fact, he may well get taken in the second round.

I highly doubt that but we'll see.

[Number44]

Originally Posted by vallin21

I highly doubt that but we'll see.

Loadholt went round 2 to Minnesota.

[FRPLG]

This is a funny thread now.

[Monkeydad]

Told ya we should take 'Rak.

I have some friends who are Dallas fans (they live in Texas) and they are super-pissed that we drafted Orakpo. I love it.