This Will Be Fun To Watch Pelosi Says CIA Lied

[MTK]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

I hate to be a turd, but female irrationality from having their decisions oft dictated by emotion, isn't exactly an efficient model of power. Of course there are exceptions that wear pant suits, but I guess someone had to say it. It isn't meant as sexism; I'm sure we've all had good female bosses and leaders but just as many if not more where you just palm your face as well.

Congrats on being a turd. A giant one at that.

[Missin21]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

I hate to be a turd, but female irrationality from having their decisions oft dictated by emotion, isn't exactly an efficient model of power. Of course there are exceptions that wear pant suits, but I guess someone had to say it. It isn't meant as sexism; I'm sure we've all had good female bosses and leaders but just as many if not more where you just palm your face as well.

I tell ya what, I would rather have a female boss over some of the male bosses I have had any day of the week & twice on Sunday. I have had, for the most part, very good female bosses, but all the men seem to want to have penis measuring contests with every other male they come in contact with. "I'm the boss, get it? Nothing you say matters!" Never really had that problem with a woman.

That being said, I hate Hillary, but that really has little to do with her being a woman. I think she is so far up her own ass that she would be a detriment to this country because of her agendas. Her being a woman is subsequent.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

I hate to be a turd, but female irrationality from having their decisions oft dictated by emotion, isn't exactly an efficient model of power. Of course there are exceptions that wear pant suits, but I guess someone had to say it. It isn't meant as sexism; I'm sure we've all had good female bosses and leaders but just as many if not more where you just palm your face as well.

I've had a lot of bosses in federal and private employment, male and female.
The douchebags are pretty evenly distributed among both sexes. I've had incredible female bosses and some absolutely mind numbing idiots. Same goes for the guys.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

why does it always seem that republicans have problems with women in power? you guys hate Pelosi, hated Hilliary. any woman you guys like? i know, old gap tooth her self

What a bunch of crap.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by firstdown

What a bunch of crap.

got any women in mind, that you like? other then your wife? what about Hilliary?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

got any women in mind, that you like? other then your wife? what about Hilliary?

I like all people and do not look at sex race or any other thing like that. Most of the time when I really notice that is when its pointed out by someone else as you have done here. I personaly don't trust Hillary but I would say the same thing about her husband. We are talking about politicians and I feel the same way about a bunch of them on the right.

[Trample the Elderly]

What does her gender have to do with the fact that she's a liar?

[budw38]

Originally Posted by dmek25

why does it always seem that republicans have problems with women in power? you guys hate Pelosi, hated Hilliary. any woman you guys like? i know, old gap tooth her self

Sarah Palin ,bettsy Ross , Ann Coulter , Danica Patrick , Shilrley M. , Nancy Reagan , Miss California , Anna Kournikova , Leeann Tweeden ,,,, I can name a few ,,, time to grab a cold beer ,,,, good night fellow SKINS Fans . Oh , If Democrats wanted a women in the white house , they should have nominated Hillary ,,, or vote McCain - Palin , Democrats , not Republicans are the reason for a women not being elected .

[Missin21]

They are all...ALL...crooked as the letter "S". Not one of these politicians can be trusted anymore. There are far too many people & ideas to try to please so they revert to simply trying to please themselves & their own selfish agendas, regardless of what those agendas are. I cannot imagine anyone in today's age being surprised by the fact that someone in our government lied to us.

What I'm surprised about is when someone in ANY area of government actually takes accountability for his/her actions & tells the truth. And not their version of the truth, but the actual truth. Now, that shocks the daylights out of me. Mainly because it never really happens.

[12thMan]

Even if she is lying, which will be pretty hard to prove, I still don't think her Speakership (is that correct?) is in jeopardy. Pelosi didn't torture anyone, didn't directly authorize any acts of torture, and hasn't committed any acts of treason that we're aware of. At best she stuck her foot in her mouth and probably should have just shut the hell up and let this play out like most smart pols on both sides.

The people that are the most outspoken on this issue, besides the media, are Newt and Cheney. Neither of which currently hold a public office and have nothing to very little at risk politically. Even the White House is trying to move on from this.

The more this issue get's volleyed back and forth it will be perceived as nothing more than attacks for political gain. And in that sense I think Pelosi's job is safe.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Even if she is lying, which will be pretty hard to prove, I still don't think her Speakership (is that correct?) is in jeopardy. Pelosi didn't torture anyone, didn't directly authorize any acts of torture, and hasn't committed any acts of treason that we're aware of. At best she stuck her foot in her mouth and probably should have just shut the hell up and let this play out like most smart pols on both sides.

The people that are the most outspoken on this issue, besides the media, are Newt and Cheney. Neither of which currently hold a public office and have nothing to very little at risk politically. Even the White House is trying to move on from this.

The more this issue get's volleyed back and forth it will be perceived as nothing more than attacks for political gain. And in that sense I think Pelosi's job is safe.

It the dems who called for the investigation and the possibility of bring charges up against people who gave the OK to waterboard. On top of that Pelosi was ranking member of the Intelligence Committee when all this happened. Either she is lying or she was not doing her job at the time this occured.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

It the dems who called for the investigation and the possibility of bring charges up against people who gave the OK to waterboard. On top of that Pelosi was ranking member of the Intelligence Committee when all this happened. Either she is lying or she was not doing her job at the time this occured.

Well what Dems are you talking about? Certainly not all of them. And there are some Republicans who feel the same way. And though they aren't actively pushing for an investigation some are on record saying, if laws were broken there should be some legal recourse.

Look, this is messy and people are very conflicted on both sides. Is torture wrong, of course it is. Did people feel it was so wrong and immoral following 9/11, probably not. And that's not being discusssed as much in the national media. The mood of the country was different then than it is right now. At the moment there's still this anti-Bush sentiment in the air and Dems are feeling themselves (my momma used to use that term, still don't what it means) following Obama's win.

I just think it will be difficult, though not impossible, for Pelosi to get ousted over what amounts to he said, she said, what I meant to say. Especially given some credibiltiy issues within the Agency itself and now Bob Graham, former Chair of the Intel Committee, also disputing these briefings.

Anyway, back to Miss California. Oh wait, Pelosi is from California.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Well what Dems are you talking about? Certainly not all of them. And there are some Republicans who feel the same way. And though they aren't actively pushing for an investigation, some are on record saying, if laws were broken there should be some legal recourse.

Look, this is messy and people are very conflicted on both sides. Is torture wrong, of course it is. Did people feel it was so wrong and immoral following 9/11, probably not. And that's not being discusssed as much in the national media. The mood of the country was different then than it is right now. At the moment there's still this anti-Bush sentiment in the air and Dems are feeling themselves (my momma used to use that term, still don't what it means) following Obama's win.

I just think it will be difficult, though not impossible, for Pelosi to get ousted over what amounts to he said, she said, what I meant to say. Especially given some credibiltiy issues within the Agency itself and now Bob Graham, former Chair of the Intel Committee, also disputing these briefings.

Anyway, back to Miss California. Oh wait, Pelosi is from California.

Pelosi her self was pushing for the truth investigation and thats how all of this got started. I agree with you that right after 9/11 the American people would have just about given the OK to do just about anything. I personaly don't think it is torture but thats my opinion and I respect other who feel differently.

[GTripp0012]

Didn't the G.O.P. just run a woman for V.P.? What's her face?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Didn't the G.O.P. just run a woman for V.P.? What's her face?

Oh, that was Miss California.