I think this might be our answer for OLB... (Greg Ellis?)

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

20.5 sacks over the last 2 years isnt productive?

not to make it sound paltry but it's a 3-4

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

not to make it sound paltry but it's a 3-4

....and your point is? I know its a 3-4 and the OLB rush more than a 4-3 but 20.5 sacks over a two year span for any player is great at this level.

Im not saying hes a great superstar player. Im just saying when someone says Ellis isnt very productive when he had 20.5 sacks over a 2 year span is laughable.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

....and your point is? I know its a 3-4 and the OLB rush more than a 4-3 but 20.5 sacks over a two year span for any player is great at this level.

Im not saying hes a great superstar player. Im just saying when someone says Ellis isnt very productive when he had 20.5 sacks over a 2 year span is laughable.

Don't get me wrong, I can definitely respect your point. You need to keep in mind my initial points in my initial post. He had a whopping 3.5 sacks over 14 games last year if not for the eagles and giants game. He is 34 and his production even in sacks was cut dramatically! He would not fit well in our system, and to trade ANY pick away for him would be stupid IMO. Time to keep our picks, and not trade them for oldies. Do you really want a guy that would likely get us 25 tackles and 3 sacks???

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

20.5 sacks over the last 2 years isnt productive?

50 tackles over 2 seasons is not...and last I checked, we needs an OLB, not a DE.

Originally Posted by jsarno

50 tackles over 2 seasons is not...and last I checked, we needs an OLB, not a DE.

No offense but if you read the whole thread and all my posts you would realize I know we need a OLB and not a DE.

[TenandSix:Unacceptable]

I think they said he will most likely be released.

Vet minimum.

First.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Harkening back to last season, if the Skins lose two OLB's to major injuries on the first day of training camp, Greg Ellis will be acquired immediately.

Other than that, I'd be surprised...

[an23dy]

I think Ellis is more of a DE and a rush 3-4 OLB than an OLB in our scheme. He would just be taking snaps away from Orakpo and I think Orakpo needs them to learn the position.

Originally Posted by an23dy

I think Ellis is more of a DE and a rush 3-4 OLB than an OLB in our scheme. He would just be taking snaps away from Orakpo and I think Orakpo needs them to learn the position.

Great point. This is another reason why we probably wont try to get him. In a 4-3 he would be better at DE instead of OLB. Most of his career he was a 4-3 end for the Cowboys. If the Skins decided if he was released to try him as a 4-3 OLB for cheap id say why not. I dont think there is any chance we sign him if hes released as a 4-3 end because we already got alot of DEs on the roster. So the odds of us getting him are slim to none.

I still think he is a damn good player though.

[TheSmurfs22]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Harkening back to last season, if the Skins lose two OLB's to major injuries on the first day of training camp, Greg Ellis will be acquired immediately.

Other than that, I'd be surprised...

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Agreed.

[BigRedskinDaddy]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Harkening back to last season, if the Skins lose two OLB's to major injuries on the first day of training camp, Greg Ellis will be acquired immediately.

Other than that, I'd be surprised...

Indeed. He would then proceed to have his worst year ever as a pro, leave after one lollygagging season...and diss the hell out of the 'Skins organization, coaches and most of the players.

Hmm. Now where have I seen that before?

[Dirtbag59]

Isn't Ellis a 4-3 DE?

[vallin21]

Name the last cowgirl we had come to DC that was sucessful?

[Skinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by vallin21

Name the last cowgirl we had come to DC that was sucessful?

Alvin Harper?

Originally Posted by vallin21

Name the last cowgirl we had come to DC that was sucessful?

So you are saying the Skins should never trade or sign a player who is a ex-cowboy because previous moves havent worked out?

Sometimes I think peoples hate for the Cowboys blinds there judgement. I actually think if DeMarcus Ware somehow hit the FA market some Skins fans would be saying I dont want that Cowgirl trash.